Hydrocodone VS. Oxycodone

[morphonorconic]

Seriously, that would be as much powder as like five or six OC80's! But only about 1/50 the potency. Plus, when dealing with that large of an amount of filler, you would be lucky if even 5 of the 15mgs was actually absorbed by the nasal membranes.

[Cane2theLeft]

^agreed... you can't deny the power of the desire some people have to snort + the placebo effect.

[Korn3x]

^agreed... you can't deny the power of the desire some people have to snort + the placebo effect.

lmao

[PillPoppingAnimal]

Man I think I prefer oxy. I love the come on when I snort it. It's so...well you all know. I love it I love it.

But, I snort vicodins too. I know it's not the smartest thing, but it works out fine. I space out my use so my tolerance never goes up, so I'm never railing more than two or three vicodin at a time.

3 is often pushing it though. I get nauseous.

I too get aggressive on opiates...I used to rail a couple before going to work, and I would end up talking over asshole customers, lol.

^Are you joking? Don't snort Vicodins. They are 99%+ filler. Stick with Oxy for insufflation.

how the hell CAN someone snort 2 or 3 vicodin? That is a MASSIVE amount of powder.

he obviously doesn't do opiates that much if u can get off from snorting vicoden that has SO MMUCH APAP, REtARD!!

[ResinTeeth]

..But as far as Percocets, I'd rather have Hydrocodone.

Same. If it came to percocet or vicodin I'd probably hit up the vicodin. Otherwise I'll take OxyContin over damn near anything else.

[MCMG]

Lol well you can laugh at it because he knows the risk and still does it. We would call that a dumbass, but anyways oxy is better, but I think hydro is more calm. I don't know I kind of hate vics though.

[ResinTeeth]

I'm not a big fan of vics either but percs don't do that much for me.

[BaybeX]

Oxycodone, ftw.

P.S. When I run out of Oxy, I crush up an Excedrin and snort it. It tends to get me super ripped.

[Lurid]

he obviously doesn't do opiates that much if u can get off from snorting vicoden that has SO MMUCH APAP, REtARD!!

I'm a girl actually...
Yes, I love opiates and I space out my use so my tolerance doesn't build up.
I know how much apap it has. Whether it's through the nose or stomach, the apap is still in my system so whatever.

I love still being able to get off on two or three vicodins.

[Lurid]

Seriously, that would be as much powder as like five or six OC80's! But only about 1/50 the potency. Plus, when dealing with that large of an amount of filler, you would be lucky if even 5 of the 15mgs was actually absorbed by the nasal membranes.

I am lucky, it works. I get all of it :)

[Cane2theLeft]

^You have some way of determining the exact portion of the hydrocodone your mucus membranes absorb? I don't understand how that's possible.

[Lurid]

^You have some way of determining the exact portion of the hydrocodone your mucus membranes absorb? I don't understand how that's possible.

That isn't possible, you're right.
I just know what 10 or 15 mgs of hydrocodone feels like, is all.

[OverDriven]

I don't have a preference between the two. Oxy is definitely better when I have a higher opiate tolerance so I don't have to eat a shit load of APAP and don't have to go through the trouble of a CWE. As for the high though, they are both great IMO.

[n0dd1ng]

I'll just take a nice 60 unit shot of some dark chocolaty goodness<3

[pillpopper187]

you can't make a fare call man

when you snort oxy you get less then %50 of what you snort

you need to crush it up or eat it, or better yet plug it

[Fail Fighter]

^You have some way of determining the exact portion of the hydrocodone your mucus membranes absorb? I don't understand how that's possible.

My nasal passages can only hold about 35mg of powder. Here's how I came to that conclusion:

1. With zero tolerance, I could snort 10mg of Oxycontin and get a buzz after about 3 minutes.

2. With a very slight tolerance, I could snort 15mg of Oxycontin and get a buzz after about 10 minutes.


Since the intranasal oxycodone is absorbed almost instantly, this explains why it hit so fast when I had no tolerance. But snorting 15mg, the same 10mg is absorbed intranasally, but I do not feel very much from the amount. The remainder is absorbed as drip, which would explain the longer onset.

And 10mg of Oxycontin = ~35mg of powder. Therefore, if you snorted a vicodin, there would be almost zero hydro being absorbed intranasally. Anyone who claims otherwise is either a lying idiot, or they simply waited long enough for it to be absorbed by the GI, in which case they should have just eaten it to begin with.

[Fail Fighter]

And in keeping with the thread, I MUCH prefer hydrocodone over oxycodone. Oxy is a crazy thing. I don't see how it's a downer, because it feels a lot like speed to me. I went on an oxy binge one time and was literally up for 3 days without any sleep at all. I got a TON of work done though. It makes work and chores seem fun for some reason.

But I hate uppers, so that's why I prefer hydro. The only reason I every buy oxy is because it's cheaper around here. It's a lot less euphoric than hydro though. In fact, I can honestly say oxy provides zero euphoria for me. I'm just another guy waiting for hydrocontin.

[PillPoppingAnimal]

if hydroCONTIN were around...oxycontin wouldnt be such a money maker...

WHEN WILL It COME!?

why is oxy a schedual 2 and hydro a sched 3? dont get it

[morphonorconic]

Fail Fighter- Your Avatar kicks ass, I laugh every time I see it. Totally sweet.

[head_creeps]

how the fuck does anyone like hydro better than oxy? 8o

it is well known that some hydrocodone is indeed metabolized into hydromorphone and others, thereby producing some physiological response when the hydromorphone binds to the opiate receptor.

similarly, oxycodone is partially metabolized into oxymorphone, and for the same reason mentioned above, some individuals might enjoy this drug.

some people genetically respond to opiates differently and enjoy the benefits of hydrocodone within their body.

some people do not like opiates at all, others love tramadol.

I am just saying that it is personal preference.

[xyther4523]

i dont get liking hydro more than oxy...in my eyes the oxy high is much more euphoric..plus i have to take WAY to much hydro to even feel it. oxy is a win hands down for me..although i will never turn down cheap/free hydros!

[always1unknown]

"P.S. When I run out of Oxy, I crush up an Excedrin and snort it. It tends to get me super ripped."

^^LOL

But ya I'm an oxycodone guy OCs all the way but id def would be curious about an HC lol if it ever came out.

[johanneschimpo]

I like the way hydrocodone feels more than oxycodone. I know its weaker per mg, but it has a better warm, noddy feeling. I don't like the way oxy feels nearly as much. I can't catch a decent nod from it. I do like oxy better for pain relief though. Although I haven't had either of these for 2-3 years, my opinion still stands.

[psynirvana01]

I'm a girl actually...
Yes, I love opiates and I space out my use so my tolerance doesn't build up.
I know how much apap it has. Whether it's through the nose or stomach, the apap is still in my system so whatever.

I love still being able to get off on two or three vicodins.

yeah guys she's just a girl.. leave her alone, don't pick on her just because she doesn't know how to use drugs and her APAP gets her fuxxored

[psynirvana01]

Hydrocodone by far.
I prefer dilaudid or oxycontin if I had my choice.

so your saying you like hydrocodone better than oxycodone, but yet you like oxycontin better than hydrocodone hmm 8)



I know how much apap it has. Whether it's through the nose or stomach, the apap is still in my system so whatever.



ok...wait, what?

[psynirvana01]

it is well known that some hydrocodone is indeed metabolized into hydromorphone and others, thereby producing some physiological response when the hydromorphone binds to the opiate receptor.

similarly, oxycodone is partially metabolized into oxymorphone, and for the same reason mentioned above, some individuals might enjoy this drug.




so i'm not actually getting high on oxy...so im getting high on oxymorphone....what, is oxy and hydro a pro drug like heroin and codeine which convert to morphine which is what you feel? is that what it's like

[johanneschimpo]

^ While hydrocodone and oxycodone are metabolized to the respective morphones, its in rather small amounts. What you feel when you take hydrocodone is hydrocodone, and what you feel when you take oxycodone is oxycodone. They aren't prodrugs, they are active drugs already. The morphones may contribute a small amount, but not much. You're feeling the codones.

[RainingDownOxy]

^ seconded-what my main man jc so right on.

[Colmes]

Ive tried them both enough times to say which one i truely prefer. Oxy of course, has the advantage, unless in percocet form, of being insuffuated, but even with that being said, my vote goes to hydrocodone, or as the cool kids say it, Vicodin.

Oxy doesnt give me an energized high at all, i still feel mellow and nice, but the hydro just feels warmer, more nodding, less mg required, and this is all swallowed as you obviously dont snort apap.

So all in all, theyre both very fun, but hydro is considerably more euphoric IMO

[sarsXdave]

There is an extended release hydro pill, but it's a relative of Tussionex. TussiCaps have 10mg hydrocodone polystirex and 8mg chlorpheniramine polystirex, which should be much better than Delsym for 12 hour cough suppression.

Of course, that's nothing like a hypothetical HydroContin, since polystirex requires you to let the shit sit in lemon juice (or any acid that won't kill you) to kind of pre-digest, which takes much more patience than crushing. Also, fuck chlorpheniramine, as that has killed some kids taking Coricidin recreationally. I just thought some people might find it interesting, as I first found out about it a couple days ago.

[Fail Fighter]

One thing that I found surprising is that hydrocodone (and hyrdomorphone) give me SEVERE constipation, whereas Oxycodone (which I was taking in greater amounts) only left me with slight pooping problems.

It caught me off guard really. I was snorting ~20mg of Oxy daily and only had slight constipation, but still pooped regularly every 2 days or so. Then I was clean for a month and tried hydrocodone (10mg Norco, 3x daily) and suddenly I was struggling to have any bowel movements at all. Had to start taking senokot just to poop every 3-4 days, and the excrement was like... well I'll compare it to shitting out a bunch of golfballs. It left my asshole torn and bleeding for a while.

So now I've changed my vote, I prefer oxy now 8)

[novalivin]

Definitely oxy. Maybe I've just never had enough hydro on hand but it doesn't seem to get me nearly as high.

[Johnny blue]

ok let me start off by saying ive used oxycodone not more than maybe 7 or 8 times ever. Ive used hydrocodone MANY times. lots of hydro..
At the times i used the oxycodone I had a very little opaite tolerence. I was also still a bit opaite nieve. (ie. i couldnt really tell the differnce btw a hydro high or an oxy high or a codeine high... they all just felt "fucked up") so i never really got to "appreciate" the oxys , so to speak..



But just the other day I got my hands on four oxy 40s. snorted 2 of em in a matter of 30 mins. (I now have a much high tolerence as you can tell. I like to take about 70 mgs of hydro to feel real nice) and despite all the hype and raving over this drug, I really dont think it is any better than hydrocodone. In fact, I actually prefer the hydrocodone high! Its less itchy and more sedating and just puts me in the right place :) ...Now dont get me wrong though, the Oxycontins were very nice, GReat euphoria! but, my vote is still with the Vicodin & friends. Heh

Mabye im just weird, but does anyone else share the same opinon?

So which one is it everyone? Hydro or Oxy?

When I started I used to like hydro more too. I just felt better on it and found oxy to be too much of a sedative.

Now as my tolerance has grown in leaps and bounds I prefer oxy. That's all I can probably get anyway and the APAP preparations help a lot in that decision. I think I've grown to like oxy more anyway. Maybe its just conditioning but there's something about taking the last dose of the day and nodding off that I've never expirienced with hydro. Maybe someday ill try a high dose but back in the day 2 vicodin es were all I needed and now its like why do a CWE when I can get a pill crush and snort it without any effort.

[Fail Fighter]

I think 95% of the reason why people prefer Oxy is because you can find it in a high dose, APAP-free preparation.

[lupara]

OK, guys...I think I'm not one of you, but I NEED you! All I need is relief from my pain from herniated cervical disks, and I have some leftover Oxycodone/APAP 5-325mg TAB and Hydrocodone-APAP 7.5-500 TAMCK, from a bad toothache last year and pulled muscle earlier this year. Which one will take care of my pain best? Nothing else works...the doctor gave me a sample bottle of 4 Ultram, which did nothing after 4 nights. A MILLION THANKS FOR YOUR SHARED EXPERIENCES.

[OxyMorph]

Screw hydrocodone i want the oxy. I can take up to 50 mg's of hydro and not feel a thing where as 50 mg's of roxi IV/snort will give me a great high. Hydro is weak compared to oxycodone.

[OxyMorph]

OK, guys...I think I'm not one of you, but I NEED you! All I need is relief from my pain from herniated cervical disks, and I have some leftover Oxycodone/APAP 5-325mg TAB and Hydrocodone-APAP 7.5-500 TAMCK, from a bad toothache last year and pulled muscle earlier this year. Which one will take care of my pain best? Nothing else works...the doctor gave me a sample bottle of 4 Ultram, which did nothing after 4 nights. A MILLION THANKS FOR YOUR SHARED EXPERIENCES.

the oxy definitely.

[OlCapone]

I would say hydrocodone has its good parts to it (a very warm satisfying come up for more hours than OC) , but Oxy's main thing that Purdue created is that it can be snorted. Oxycodone is much stronger in terms of the addiction scale I think. They both are the same in relieving pain in codone/APAP form.

[Floaters]

The euphoria is equivalent when you adjust for dosage. In other words, 15 mg of hydro is equivalent to 10 mg of oxy. The oxy is a slightly more energizing high than hydro.

[zagamuffski]

hydro does nothing for me. i used to love it...those were the good days! now, oxy/roxi is the only med that will give me that "feeling". i have a load of hydros that i havent touched in months. its like taking a placebo for me. i wish i never tried oxy, i would love to go back in time and just be addicted to hydro. wow, thats a sad a pathetic statement...but very true!

[Harrisment]

I actually prefer Hydro. Oxy's just give me a real sedated feeling. Hydro actually gives me a lot more pep and makes me want to be around and talk to other people.

[Floaters]

^ If this doesn't show that everybody's brain chemistry is different, nothing does!

[coffster98]

I think each has its place. I love some hydro's if I'm going to be doing something physical, as it seems to give me a real nice energy boost as well. The oxy is better IMO for just sittin around at night, or when you need excellent pain relief as well as some relaxation.

[OpiateDreamer]

i have used both. what makes oxy actually "better" than hydro? if i were to drink on hydro i fell almost nothing from hydro. why? does the alcohol just mask the effects of hydro?

[PinK~cloud]

i completely agree. i used to always like hydros better than oxys. now however, the tylenol would kill me, so oxy is the natural choice.

[microtel]

Never could tell much difference in hydro or oxycodone. Hydro CWE seems best for harm reduction, especially combined with modest amounts of alprozalom.

[SECONAL]

When I first started using opiates (hydrocodone was my first one) a few months ago - which I used on-and-off infrequently - I could get a *really* good buzz from only a 10 - 15mg dose of vicodin pills. Then soon after I switched to Lortab 10mg's, and I was not even have way through a month supply's bottle when my tolerance to it went through the roof.

Since I never was a daily user and only enjoyed a few pills ever-so-often, I was shocked how fast a hydro tolerance could grow in just a very short amount of time.

I still like hydros - and will still use them again in the future once my tolerance goes down.

But now, if I had a choice between hydrocodone and oxycodone - I'd vote for oxy. More potent.

[tylerwashere]

Oxy for SURE. hydro is way weaker it seems. i heart oxy

[Cocorosie]

Just take both at the same time.

[HighonLife]

Oxy