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erosion
15-09-2005, 20:41
I'm a very experience drug user - primarily opiates, but I have done every mainstream drug (including hallucinagens) in existence, plus a few rc's. So I *thought* I knew what I was doing. Boy, was I wrong.

It began when I went to the headshop and saw that they had Salvia for sale in different strengths. I had always wanted to try it, so I thought "what the hell" and bought the 2nd to lowest strength "yellow", which was 1/2 gram It wasn't labeled in the standard 5x-20x, just color coded, so I couldn't tell you how strong it was. I had to buy a pipe too, because I didn't even own one! (you dont need them for opiates :).

I got home, prepped the pipe with tobacco and salvia (I put in 1/5 of the packet, per instructions). I inhaled and then coughed hard. I didn't expect the tobacco to be that harsh without a filter from a crappy pipe. I didn't feel anything yet, so I took another puff. Thats when all hell broke loose. I felt really heavy. I wasn't seeing anything perse, but my vision slowed down considerably. I started to feel really disphoric, like a dose of Dimenhydrinate (Dramamine). The disphoria increased substantially, and I panicked, which made it exponentially worse.

I wanted out really bad, so I figured I would splash some water on my face and take a small stroll in my backyard to sober up. Upon standing up I had incredible nausia the disphoria became even worse. For some reason I became extremely angry and full of rage. I don't know if it was the salvia, or the salvia was bringing out something that I had never dealt with (a bunch of stuff has happened recently that i probably haven't given proper thought and respect to), but for some reason I needed to destroy something. I tore all the trash off my floor (cups and pop cans and such) and threw them across the kitchen at the trash, which I missed. I smashed my crappy alarm clock with my foot. The cat came in meowing and crinkling paper, and i shoved him across the room (tile floors, so It didn't hurt him, but he ran away).

Tears welled up in my eyes, and sweat soaked my shirt and was running down my face. I turned on the air conditioning and layed on my bed. It didn't help at all. Finally, I remembered I had a few heroin soaked cottoms left, and 1/4 a dime. I put it all in a spoon, prepped and banged it. That seemed to help quite a bit, and I could finally relax. I'm on methadone mantainance, so it wasn't withdrawl that made it a bad trip.

Retospective: I'd heard mixed reviews of this drug before I decided to do it, so I knew some people didn't think it was particularly "fun". I was prepared to have an introspective experience that might not be euphoric, but never did I expect to have such a painful experience as I had. Quite frankly, I don't know how anyone could enjoy this stuff, its now in the same catagory as dramamine and jimson weed (never tried) for me. I usually even give drugs I don't like a 2nd try to see if I was wrong, but thats not happening with Salvia.

-n4k

nemesis-a
17-09-2005, 09:05
salvia is crazy. period.

Piper methysticum
17-09-2005, 21:22
Personally, I love Salvia, but I've had some frightening experiences as well. It's not really something that should be taken lightly, and it isn't for everyone.

mapleleaf
18-09-2005, 11:03
salvia's legal??

Flanger
19-07-2009, 03:46
For those who think that Salvia is some sort of hokum pokum jokey fake thing. Think again! First, Salvia is not like hashish or canabis. It certainly isnt a 'party' drug, and for those of you thinking of trying it, read up, research and make sure you are prepared, this stuff is NOT for the faint hearted. Read up on how to smoke it and follow the instructions if you want to see the potential. Have a SOBER freind with you. This stuff IS legal in alot of places. BUT I reitterate, it IS NOT a party high!8o

delphium
19-07-2009, 18:19
What people should also keep in mind is that the above doesn't even sound like a breakthrough experience. Anyone contemplating smoking salvia for the first time should understand that experiences much stronger/frightening/dissociating are frequent and even common when good extract and proper smoking technique are used. Blast-off salvia experiences rank right up there with smoked DMT/5-MeO-DMT in terms of visual, mental, and physical intensity, and should definitely be sought after only by those who are absolutely sure they want them.

That said, salvia can be humbling, incredible, and life-affirming, and I certainly wouldn't discourage anyone who has done their research and intends on titrating their dosage carefully from giving it a go. Just remember to set the bong down while you can still, you know, see. :D