2CB-FLY 26mg - somewhat experienced - who's looking over my shoulder

[hypnoticzzz2003]

Ok, here we go I will try and explain as much as I can recall.
7:00pm saturday night dosed approximatley 26mg or 27, my friend went with 30mg.
7:30pm smoked 1 hit of KB, watching battlefield earth.
8:00 starting to see faces slowly morph and melt
8:40 or around that time movie ending, started to watch the computer programs some kind of plug in with music playing. With all kinds of psychedelic fractals and differnt patterns,
Time is gone now, between 8:40 and 11:30 became very alien, as if I was visiting another planet, the 2cb-fly was in total control of me, unlike DOC this chemical had control over me, I kept geting sucked into the screen, as if I was getting grabbed by the various patterns on the screen. Soon the screen split into 2 and grew to a huge size I would close my eyes and reopen them and it was still 2 screens and growing.
We stepped outside, I leaned against the porch and the wood kept moving like I was about to fall over, so I sat down, after a few min. I went back in and everything was glowing sparkling flashing, the room seemed red, I sat back in the chair and starting pushing the wall back with my hand, and sinking into my chair. I kept sensing something behind me with its hand on my shoulder looking at me watching me, but I ignored it. I really wish I could remember every detail of this trip but I just can't
We started watching 2001 Space Odessey around 11:30. And I did not really return to normality until around 5:30 am. Did not sleep until 10:00 am sunday woke up at 2:30 pm drove home and ended up falling asleep around 9 after 5 melitonin tablets. I wish I can give more detail but this is about as much as I can remember.

I will repeat soon but maybe a higher dose. Or a low dose mixed with 2 mg of DOC I think this chemical can take you there.As my friend sat up and said out of the Blue "THIS IS THE REAL DEAL"

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[hypnoticzzz2003]

Also if anyone here has anything to ask, please do. Might bring back some lost memories of what took place

[Hypnic_JerK]

So you just stayed in your house for the duration?

[treefingers49]

Also if anyone here has anything to ask, please do. Might bring back some lost memories of what took place

so you don't remember a lot of it, but you still want to do more next time?

[hypnoticzzz2003]

So you just stayed in your house for the duration?

YEP, I did.^^ And yes I remember shit, when you take psychs do you remember EVERYTHING!!!

[treefingers49]

I certainly remember at least more than a paragraph's worth.

[GreenBarts]

hypnoticzzz2003 did you experience any empathy?

[Hypnic_JerK]

Damn dude if I were really going to go for this kind of dose I would go where its effective. At LEAST a club, at most probably some sort of anti globalization or Lyndon LaRouche rally. Not that anything other than personal development is on my agenda, but I just feel that I'd get the best bang for my buck out of a possesion/psychotic break type high in those circumstances.

[hypnoticzzz2003]

Empathy yes! I did have some. Towards the end of the peak I was madly in love talking to the girl I have been seeing. Also I was getting very ecstacy like rushes listening to certain songs I used to listen to while on E. I think at a lower dose this can be taken in public with no problem. But empathy was there I felt very at ease with my buddy and his g/f and was able to speak my mind. I felt wonderful. Only after the peak,

[Xorkoth]

You'd want to take a mind-shattering dose of a psychedelic in a club or social function? You're braver (or more foolish, can't decide which) than I...

[hypnoticzzz2003]

What i'm trying to say is after the intense peak music just had me wanting to get up and dance. I think that I could have attended a club,rave but not during the peak hours. A low dose would have been sufficient though for something of that nature

[Xorkoth]

Oh, I was directing that at hypnic, not you.

[Hypnic_JerK]

HypnoticZZZz> Who was looking over your shoulder?

Xorkoth> Yeah I would want to do it somewhere where human interaction could work its full magic/ somewhere I could get in people's heads and out of mine. I find that when I'm fully blasted/possessed/psychotically broken, I am more comfortable the larger a group of people I'm fucking with... And like groups of people will just flock to me when I'm blacked out on psychedelics to listen to me talk (though I dont know what I say) and actually a lot (err some maybe) people respect me on a really deep level after that. I think its because there is a set of us people that love the world but maybe dont care if we personally live or die because maybe reincarnation is real and if you smoke enough salvia u see this?

(edit) oh yeah, and I dont think its me specifically that this happens to its just anyone who is crazy (literally) enough to take large doses in public. and it worked best for me on 4oomcg b-dragonfly

[hypnoticzzz2003]

I never saw "its" face but a shadow leaning over my back with it's arm reached touching my right shoulder, it was calling me, then it seemed to start comign from the tv screen trying to break through the patterns on the screen

[Hypnic_JerK]

did it feel like the drugs were allowing you to see a reality that could effect you or was it more like a fucked up hallucination?

Cuz like with some hallucinogens, salvia in particular, it seems what they really distort is your view of what's real, like make you question your own reality and all. Thats what I'm into. Could the shadow monster have fucked you up? lol

[Xorkoth]

Once on 2C-I, I suddenly realized I was "seeing" shapes in my peripheral vision. Not seeing with my vision, but like with my "sixth sense", or psychic ability. 2C-I seems to unlock this for me sometimes. Anyway, I could see spirits of all sorts of things moving around, but in particular there were two human spirits - a middle aged man watching me from the doorway, and a young, 7 or 8 year old boy who was very curious and would approach me until I looked at him. I couldn't see the physical details of these people but I could sense the details I mentioned somehow. But, whenever I'd look directly at them instead of out of the side of my vision, a distinctly pair of hand-and-arm shapes would cross in front of my vision and come down to cover my eyes. When this happened, I could still see physically just fine, but my "psychic vision", so to speak, was effectively blocked. Also, my ordinary 2C-I visuals were blocked temporarily when this happened. This was very crazy to me and I spent most of the trip playing around with this ability and trying to determine if there were more spirits.

Anyway, I would actually probably have discounted this all as imagined effects of a drug. But the next afternoon, my girlfriend and I were chilling downstairs. We got into a long, great conversation about spirits and the afterlife and such, and suddenly, out of nowhere, she mentions that she's sensed two spirits in our apartment many times. I should mention she has a history of dreams that come true and being visited by spirits of deceased family. Anyway, shocked, I asked her to describe them to me. She said that one was a middle aged man who seems like he's always standing in the hall or doorway, just watching, and the other is a young boy who seems friendly. This was without any prompting at all from me, and I hadn't mentioned anything about my experience.

So, excitedly, I told her what had happened to me the night before. As we were talking about the little boy spirit, all of a sudden I felt small vibrations through the floor as if small footsteps were coming near. Then there was a very distinct *thump* on the floor right next to me, and it sounded like something had just plopped down there. I even felt definite vibrations through the floor, and my girlfriend witnessed all of this also. This happened when I was trying to address the boy and tell him we know he's curious and we'd like to hang out.

I've also had two experiences on giving people a contact high with 2C-I similarly to how Shulgin reports about a contact high with 2C-I in PiHKaL. Once was at a party where I was on 2C-I, and I got everyone high on my vaporizer. Soon, everyone was getting kind of freaked out because they had become hyper-aware of social undercurrents and such, and most had had no experience tripping so it was weird for them. A guy who DID have experience (with mushrooms and acid anyway) who has become a good friend since asked me, "Man, who slipped me the acid?" The other time, my girlfriend spontaneously started to get visuals one time when I was on the tail end of a 2C-I trip. She described them to me, and they were shockingly similar to what I was seeing at the time. And, she's never tripped before.

Anyway, just felt like talking about perception-altering drugs, and I remembered this. Enjoy!

[Hypnic_JerK]

not to get off topic but my friend and I got 2 girls contact high offa 2cI and they described all the hallucinations perfectly.

Even to the point of where we were throwing glow in the dark stars and they reported seeing multiple trails offa each one, despite the fact that these chicks had no experience with hallucinogens or even hearing of the term 'trails' it was a wild night...

[Xorkoth]

You know, I've also heard from two other people that contact highs were given from 2C-I. I think this is insanely interesting. That and what I talked about in my post above.

[hypnoticzzz2003]

Well what I tell you is this substance is the real deal brother, you need to go where I went

[Hypnic_JerK]

well seeing as I only have enough for 2 40mg trips left I am going to have to wait for either the love of my life and i to fuck, or wait until I can do some crazy protest or something. Hell, maybe even a good concert when my music skills get a little better. I'm not gonna lay in bed listening to music on this one. :)

[nanobrain]

not to get offtopic, but have either of the posters read the full print versions of PiHKAL / TiHKAl? or Stolaroff for that matter?

the Shadow material is described in great detail...

and no, i wont tell you a thing about the outdoor 4-5-8 day long mutant psytrance freak fest full of freaks that is the proper setting for 2C-B-FLY, especially if you make music happen (not just in your head, dumbass).

[hypnoticzzz2003]

What part of PIHKAL are you talking about, I have both books PIHKAL/TIHKAL right here in front of me. I have read PIHKAL cover to cover but TIHKAL I just started reading, I had read PIHKAL about 1 year ago

[Jamshyd]

not to get offtopic, but have either of the posters read the full print versions of PiHKAL / TiHKAl? or Stolaroff for that matter?

the Shadow material is described in great detail...


If you're refering to Ann's descriptions, then I find that interesting, since she was talking about 2C-B and here is a similar experience with 2C-B-FLY...

[hypnoticzzz2003]

Was 2c-b-fly even mentioned in detail in PIHKAL??? Like I said it's been over a year since I have read the book. I just cracked it open today and going to re-read from beginning to end.

[Hypnic_JerK]

Yeah I havent read either and I'm dying to. I've read all the online versions of both though, as well as every trip report on every substance on erowid. I'm obsessed with tr's.

I just bought Artificial Paradises and all it does is point to further reading i gotta do.

[Jamshyd]

Was 2c-b-fly even mentioned in detail in PIHKAL??? Like I said it's been over a year since I have read the book. I just cracked it open today and going to re-read from beginning to end.

To my knowledge, 2C-B-FLY did not exist at the time of PiHKAL's publication.

[Xorkoth]

This fits with my knowledge as well. And I definitely know for sure that it doesn't appear in PiHKAL.

[nanobrain]

the point was the shadow material, not the mention of the drug, which will be in th ePsychedelic Index

[djfriendly]

To my knowledge, 2C-B-FLY did not exist at the time of PiHKAL's publication.
That is correct, the -fly and -dragonfly PEAs were "invented" in the 90's.

[GreenBarts]

As my friend sat up and said out of the Blue "THIS IS THE REAL DEAL"
LOL

[Liquid_Finder]

cool story

[douche_mcflappin]

Haven't read my old TR in a while thought I would pop in a resurrect it!! I still have my 2cb-fly I wonder how long it will stay in storage before it loses anything. has anyone stored it for a long time with good results. It's still in the package it arrived in, and in my chest inside of a book in the dark. I am saving some for 12/21/2012 of course, Also I need to ask someone about the 2cb-fly if they have t5ried it from a certain vendor. And if it was the real deal..Xorkoth PM me