Bad Ayahuasca Trip

[TheDeadShaman]

First time user, I put 30 grams of Banister Caapi in a water vinegar solution and boiled for about 30 minutes. Did the same with 9 grams of Mimola Hostilis. Noticed slight buzz and nausea in the first 30 minutes. After that I became very paronoid and thought it was going to be an intense trip. The trip never materialized but the paronia stayed and got worse. I regretted drinking the solution and threw up which got rid of the nausea but the paronia only increased. I spent the next 3 hours in a psychotic panic attack, just waiting for the effects to go away. I got stuck in insane thought loops and couldn't get my mind to slow down. The whole time my heart was racing incredibly fast and there was nothing I could do to stop it (Tried to control my breathing but my heart wouldnt stop.) I couldn't sit down or do anything, I was too anxious so I just paced about. The whole situation made me realize what it's like to be insane. This is the only time in my life where I took a drug and then wished I hadn't afterwards. I eventually feel asleep about 7 hours after ingestion (Which was about 9 in the morning) and slept for a little while. Woke up the next morning feeling better, but with a slight headache and still feeling a little anxious. Didn't feel totally sane until I got a good night of sleep the next day. Now almost a week later I feel much better, but I am bothered by the experience. I was really looking forward to the trip and it was very dissapointing.

This trip left me confused. I have never had a bad trip like this before and acutally was not tripping that hard (No visuals or other things associated with a normal trip.) I consider myself a fairly experienced psychedelic user, did three hits of acid about about a month ago and walked about the town feeling great. This was totally different, it was like an insane head trip coupled with a panic attack. It kind of bothers me because I am a little anxious about the next time I trip. My only theory on the situation is maybe the Caapi caused a rise in blood pressure with the MAOI Inhibition which coupled with the small does of DMT to cause the bad trip. Many of the symptoms I experienced then and the day after could be caused by high blood pressure. Needless to say I will not try Ayahuasca any time soon and the next time I trip will definetly be with another person.

[Church]

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[Kul69]

Were you taking anti depressents or anything like that? Use any other drugs the day before or same day?

[TheDeadShaman]

Never took an Anti depresent in my life. I smoke weed everyday and probably had some caffeine the night before.

[spun420 v. 2.0]

this stuffs effects can vary widely, just read all the different reports. I have seen three people on the exact same doses enter three completely different states.

[Psycho_hippie]

The exact same thing happened to me a few months ago!! I'm also somewhat experienced with psychedelics, and this was by far the WORST trip of my life! I did it with two of my friends, and neither of them were affected by it. I was stuck in my trip for about 12 hours. I can literally say I know what it feels like to be insane now. The thoughts in my head wern't making sense, but apparently when I spoke it was making sense. The thoughts wouldn't stop and I felt like I wasn't saying what I meant to. It's very difficult to explain. I thought I had fried my brain. I thought I would never come out of my horrible trip. I was tempted to ask one of my friends to take me to the hospital but I didn't. Instead they just consoled me all night and gave me a charcol pill to flush it out of my system. I couldn't sleep untill the next night.

[burni]

i haven't tried ayahuasca yet but i read a whole lot about it. you said that you had some caffeine the night before...are you a regular caffeine user? because i think that might (!) have been part of the problem because the caffeine could't be broken up by the mao enzyme (correct me if i'm wrong).
the next time, if there will be a next time, make sure to fast a few days before and perhaps get someone to watch you or hold you if needed preferably a shaman, for ayahuasca is imho nothing to just try all by yourself.

[AmphetamineNinja]

damn ayuhasco sounds serious,

[Coolio]

The beta-carboline MAOIs in B. caapi are psychedelics in their own right. The duration is 6-18 hours usually, if you raise the dose to a certain point. You just used way too much caapi and not nearly enough DMT. Try 30g mimosa hostilis and 9 grams caapi or something...

[koalakoala]

Maois can be quite unpredictable, much safer in general to just take one substance via a route where no maoi is necessary. The main thing in ayahuasca is dmt, which can be extracted quite easily from mimosa hostilis. That stuff's actually on ebay ;)