Nurofen Plus (codeine) [Archive]

DaBuster

01-06-2002, 15:12

fairnymph

02-06-2002, 01:14

Ibuprofen is much safer than APAP (acetaminophen) at higher doses, so I wouldn't worry about extracting the codeine, just go ahead and eat the pills whole.

riichiee

02-06-2002, 09:02

I was just searching about the same thing..
Are there any side effects from taking 3200 mg of Ibuprofen??
..and even though it might be a waste of time, would the cold water extraction method still work with the Ibuprofen??
Cheers..

superbabydoc

02-06-2002, 10:18

^^er, a stomach ulcer? Ibuprofen and other NSAID's are very irritating to your stomach. Otherwise, according to Micromedex, people have survived with no life threatening toxicity in od's ranging from 1.2 gms to 60 gms, with one case of a guy getting CNS depression at 3 gms. People with asthma should take care with ibuprofen.

Kalza

02-06-2002, 14:12

If you have a sensitive stomach or gastro-intestinal problems, you should not even take ibuprofen. This especially applies to people with gastro disorders, such as Crohn's, IBS, etc... Be careful... Personaly, I'd much rather take APAP - but again I do have a long history of intestinal disorders...
Kalza

nursey

02-06-2002, 15:09

As a nurse i'm shocked, we would admit and treat you if you came to A&E after having taken such a large dose of ibuprofen, at that dosage it would probably cause you to bleed in your gastrointestinal tract even if you had no previous GI problems. Don't be a prat! Just fake a really bad back and get some codeine from your GP if you're that desperate.
FairyNymph, as a moderator, i'm amazed to see you give such potentially life-threatening advice, please ensure your data is correct before you post because the advice of moderators is taken more seriously than others.
[ 02 June 2002: Message edited by: nursey ]

riichiee

03-06-2002, 09:59

Thanks for the info.. i glad i waited for a few more responses..
Back to the question i was going to ask originally --> Does the cold water extraction method work with ibuprofen??
Cheers.

NoriegA

04-06-2002, 09:03

As far as I know the cold water extraction works with Ibuprofen. So you should have no problem, enjoy...

stardragon

04-06-2002, 21:39

Quick searches turned up that ibuprofen is nearly insoluble in water; it appears it is mixed or bound with a "surfactant" (something that "acts on the surface" - i'd always associated the word with soap because of the way it breaks the surface tension of water) to enable it to be absorbed into the system when taken orally, but I couldn't find good figures on how this affects its solubility in water at different temperatures.

PhreeX

05-06-2002, 02:18

Honestly, while 3200mg is a LOT - and it COULD cause problems, if you're not a drinker and basically a healthy young adult then you should have no problems ..
Still, for god sake, extract it next time..
So both nursey had some vaid points, as did fairnumph..
I will now move this to the HEALTH forum where you may get better info..

Funkmaster G

05-06-2002, 09:00

I was wondering if anyone could post a link to a series of old bluelight posts or an internet url on where I can find out how to extract the Codeine. Thanks

riichiee

05-06-2002, 09:12

Here is a link for the extraction:
http://www.erowid.org/pharms/codeine/codeine_faq.shtml
Now.. just for the record, i didn't actually take 3200mg of Ibuprofen.. i was only asking what the side effects might be if i did (in order to take 300mg of codeine)
I'm getting a few conflicting reports about whether or not the Ibuprofen can be extracted using the cold water technique.. Can any one help put an end to this debate?
Cheers..

FiNChy

05-06-2002, 09:34

Damn you guys and your Codeine
I had my wisdom teeth taken out a couple years back and woke up hyper-ventalating (sp?) and convulsing. Apparently I'm allergic to it.
I want in on the fun... lol

Diacetylus

26-12-2005, 09:17

Ibuprofen is much safer than APAP (acetaminophen) at higher doses, so I wouldn't worry about extracting the codeine, just go ahead and eat the pills whole.

Yea... REALLY great advice there. 8)
Please, in the interest of harm-reduction, think before you type next time. Thanks.

zephyr

27-12-2005, 09:23

EsourceR

27-12-2005, 10:58

...there's also the search function

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=212728&highlight=extraction+ibuprofen

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=129082

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=141077&highlight=extraction+ibuprofen

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=231800&highlight=extraction

be good to your liver ...extraction is always highly recommended

Diacetylus

30-12-2005, 19:54

^ this thread IS a few years old, maybe you should think before you bump.

Just for the record- nurofen plus pills USED to be splittable so the codeine half could be separated from the ibuprofen. They are no longer being produced so they are splittable so if you want to separate the codeine you will need to extract it. That link above is a relatively easy method.

Right, sorry... I bumped an old thread. I'd have to say though, that's alot better than giving someone potentially fatal advice. 8(

Erm... just thought I would let you know, here in Australia, there just so happens to be a few batches of Nurofen Plus still circulating certain Pharmacies that are indeed "splittable". With a little practise and precision, one could be on his/her way to cloud9 in no time, without having to go through the Cold Water Extraction Method. %) ..just for the record milady :p

In my world, bumping an old thread, as opposed to say... giving potentially lethal, life consuming advice is not half a drama. So, please... :|

lemesis

29-08-2006, 13:21

hey, guys,
i've just had a go at extracting the codeine from nurofen plus, i followeed the main points of the cold water extraction, but i kind of wanted to get rid of some of the fuss. kind of "an idiots guide to extracting codeine from nurofen plus" if you will. I did this about ten minuites ago and i can tell you i'm feeling some pretty strong effects, very nice. I basically just filled up a glass of cold water and put 12 tablets in there, i gave them five minuites to dissolve and a little swish around and let settle, make sure all the codeine had dispersed into the water, next i got hold of the thinnest t-shirt i could find, and placed it over another glass, and transferred the mixture, once i'd tranferred it all i gave it a good squeeze to make sure i got all the liquid out, it felt very good to see all the ibuprofen lying in that shirt, and knowing that what was in the glass was pretty much all codeine, i dare say there was a little ibuprofen in there, but what mattered to me was that i had seriously minimized it. So lets see that was just a little over 140mg of codeine in that experiment, lets say i lost 1 or 2 pills worth of codeine in the transfer, but i'm sure thats being overly generous, cos i can't see how i would have lost more than 5mg to 10mg there. you still getting a very good time from a pack of £2.69 pills. This may not be the worlds most precise method, but i think i'd rather see you do this than scoff down all that unnecesary ibuprofen. I hope this helps anyone who might be feeling a little overwhelmed by the more complicated looking faqs you find around. and i can tell you now that i am feeling it really good. If you decide to give it a try this way, write in and let me know how you got along.
LEM

EAZY-PING9

04-09-2006, 04:40

I usually use nerofen plus for CWE, because of the high amounts of codeine (12.8mg) compared to other OTC drugs(8-10mg). It works.

EAZY-PING9

04-09-2006, 04:44

Lately I've been using the filter from my coffee plunger instead of lemesis idea of a t-shirt, And I usually strain it a few times before drinking. I think I'll give a t-shirt a whurl today.

PwnX

04-09-2006, 16:38

Ever heard of the edit button, EAZY? O.o

EAZY-PING9

05-09-2006, 03:44

nope, I have now.

PwnX

05-09-2006, 15:50

Did you think it was just there for decoration? :rolleyes:

EAZY-PING9

12-09-2006, 05:09

Get over it mate.

Boiling in Acid

12-09-2006, 14:20

Just for kicks, I ordered these from New Zealand and I actually got 'em. Last time I had codeine was like 9 years ago when I had my wisdom teeth taken out (tylenol 3).
I was wondering if anyone here has tried this paticular brand and do you suggest I do an extraction because of the low amount of codeine per pill?
Nurofen Plus = 200mg Ibuprofen / 12.8 mg Codeine phosphate

fuck hell thats low!!

how good to get 200MGS pack otc PER 3$ with no APAP and shit!!!
mybe ill go score some later :)

now scored 20 2mg kpins less then .5 dollar each ( i hope i not sound a snob:)
andsome h line for 5$... self rehab got to thrash only cause the dude with the tramadol was missing.(1$ per100mg tramadol hcl)
fuck that, i have otccod, have no wds from it :)

lemesis

15-09-2006, 23:11

phew, having a bit of a rough day today. I got 4 grams of the 15x kratom delivered . I do the same thing about once a fortnight for a change of scenery, taking 2 gram in one sitting. This is great stuff very effective, active at a gram, strong effects at two grams,very like codeine (in nature not measurement), for anyone who hasn't tried it, i highly recommend it, but its starting to make me feel more and more sick these days. Anyone else get this after pro-longed use? maybe thats why they say kratom isn't addictive, cos if you take to much of it or you become over familiar with it, You develop nauseous feelings toward it, guess i'll just start taking a little less, or maybe it was just a bad day for kratom, anyone got any recommendations for any good ethnobotanicals worth giving a shot?, could be time for something new, c-ya

UnfortunateSquid

16-09-2006, 01:27

Yeah I know what you mean, took some earlier and it's starting to make me feel a bit queasy.
How do you take the extract? I just eat it myself, I'm sure there's a better way though. Dissolving it in alcohol worked well when I had the uber concentrated stuff, but it's a bit tricky with 3 or 4g of 10x extract.
(Sorry for minor thread hijack)

lemesis

19-09-2006, 00:01

yeah it's definatly got a pukeability factor going on there. I'll always miss the first few times i tried it, they were the best, but as for taking it, i tend to put a couple of grams in a small glass of water and then add a little undiluted squash to the mix, seems like a good way to mask the taste of anything, i've also chucked it in a little wine a few times, although that can be a pretty rough mix.
But i've got plans for some nurofen plus (codeine extracted) and half a bottle of wine next payday. some wine and about 250mg of codeine makes for a blissful couple of hours, and best of all no hurl factor.

amodelninja

27-09-2006, 06:55

be good to your liver ...extraction is always highly recommended

Ibuprofen is metabolised in your kidneys. I'm not trying to be a dick or anything, it's just something that's handy to know.

fluffybaby

27-01-2009, 19:58

my friend gave me a bottle of liquid codeine and I was wondering what I should do with it. I don't like the effects of swallowing it - is there a way to inject it? Any help would be apperciated

mr.oxyhead89

28-01-2009, 02:58

Do not inject codiene!!!! You will have a massive histamine release, then pulmonary edema, and then you will die. Just swallow it....

p.s. Why did you bring this thread back from the dead?

Inso

28-01-2009, 15:53

lol I took one of these the other day and I got hiiiiiiiiiiiigh; itchy, pin prick pupils, floating on air, etc. Took me by surprise. That's not the case for everyone though, I am just a fast metaboliser or something. But they do work!

Sustanon

01-02-2009, 05:01

I took 3 of them at once today. My gum around my tooth hurts bad and my whole cheek is swallon. I think its my wisdom tooth and have to get it pulled out. The pain has almost dissapeared but i am not feeling any effects at all. I dont think anyone would get high by eating 10 of these at once.

Blennz

02-02-2009, 09:27

Ibuprofen is much safer than APAP (acetaminophen) at higher doses, so I wouldn't worry about extracting the codeine, just go ahead and eat the pills whole.

why would you even suggest that? i have made the mistake before and believe me allthough alot better on you then acetaminophen in some other products also containing codeine it will still fuck your stomach up. I was doing an extraction a few years ago and was running out of time for the last train so i just ate it up and suffered a massive stomach pain for the rest of the night

mnd-

27-04-2009, 14:16

Can anyone tell me if I need a presciption to buy these tablets? :/

stevenx

30-10-2009, 21:32

is anyone here addicted to codeine? i'm from the nottingham area, uk. would be good to speak with someone in the same boat

bohat

26-01-2010, 14:48

1) 10 Nurofen Plus (store brand) - 200mg (Ibuprofan) & 12.5 mg Codeine Phosphate Hemihydrate - total pills weight 6.65g (remember this will include any binding agents)
2) small drinks bottle with cold tap water
3)2 3 coffee filters (you shoud only need 2) each weighed between 1.7g-1.8g
4) pint glass

Method used:
1) all pills in bottle of Cold water
2) dissolve for 5 mins-ish shaking occasionally and at the end (dont over shake to avoid dissolving/breaking down the ibuprofan)
3) place 2 filters (1 inside the other) over pint glass - i originally used 1 filter and the weight of liquid and the blocking effect of the ibuprofan caused the filter to leak
4) after filtering the liquid looked almost as clear as water no exaggeration

Calculations:
1) pills 6.65g - codine 0.125g = 6.525g of ibuprofan & binding agents
2) 3 filter papers once (dried) with all remnants (dried) = 11.23g
3) - filter papers (5.25g) = 5.98g
4) 5.98g is 95.68% of the pills minus the codine

Advice:
1) ok, i have seen many posts about popping loads of pills and this is a little silly if you have the option to do CWE. also i feel that a tshirt is very inadequate for the job of filter but if you dont have any then it is better than nothing
2) i havnt seen anyone mention this but please remember that doing alot of anything is not but there is a better alternative. Dont take 16 (co codimol), you can mix ibuprofan and paracetimol with no issues as said by my gp so doing 8 of each type is MASSIVLY safer)

I have very bad stomach issues and ibuprofan isnt good for it but i have had no pain at all doing this process when normally the smallest thing will upset it.

i will give the paracetimol a shot next and let you know how i get on!

i think thats everything, be safe people

moonyham

27-01-2010, 09:58

Being a New Zealander, and having NO real pain meds available(nurofen plus is the strongest shit you can get, yeah, i know), ive experimented with these pills. I bought a pack of 24 and took 8 at first then another 10 or so a couple hours later. Thats aprox 4000mg. All i know is, people can eat alot of ibuprofen before you get any bad effects. Thats not to say that people dont have adverse reactions to a gram or whatver, but as long as you eat a little bit of food with the pills, you shouldnt have any stomach problems.

Oh yeah, ALWAYS eat a bit of food with them.. even if its just a couple biscuits, anything is better than nothing.. these things can basically eat through your stomach if you eat enough of them on an empty stomach.

Did i feel anything? Yes. But not much. Then again ive got a natural tolerance to opiates in general, and it takes 500-700mg a day of codeine for me to feel anything.

Oh and i took some 'codalagin' or some shit with them, which is APAP with 12mg of codiene.. so my dose was probably in the 150-200mg area.

n3ophy7e

28-01-2010, 05:13

Thats aprox 4000mg.

I would strongly advise against taking that much ibuprofen, especially if you do it more than once. Ibuprofen is extremely irritating to the stomach lining and even though you might not feel anything adverse, there would almost certainly be some damage occurring.

Why bother just dumping the pills in your mouth when you can do a CWE and have the codeine extracted in 5-10 minutes?? Stop being lazy people! CWE's are piss-easy to do, and you don't have to swallow the rest of the crap in the tablets to get the effect you're after. Be SAFE and treat your body with at least some respect.

*edit* Oh, and I'm not sure if it's been said in this thread but you should never EVER take more than 5000mg of paracetamol/APAP at once. EVER!! (that is only 10 x 500mg tablets, not very much when you're trying to get the codeine effect). It is extremely dangerous to go higher than that dosage, and paracetamol overdose is a pretty darn easy way to kill your liver, or just plain die :|

belarki

28-01-2010, 05:46

whoa old thread here 8)

Anyway I'd agree with what n3o said. There was a study posted here on BL a couple of years ago from the UK where it was noted that Paracetamol (ACAP) poisining was the most common type of poisoning by a long shot. Funnily enough any child can walk into a supermarket here and buy enough panadol to kill themselves...

While ibuprofen is considerably safer than paracetamol and there's less per pill (200mg compared to 500mg) if you're taking more than the recommended dose I'd recommend a CWE (cold water extraction). There are many HUGE CWE megathreads in Other Drugs and Australian Drug Discussion.

Of note the "nurofen" brand isn't great for CWE because of whatever binders they use (they used to be the pill of choice when they were splittable but that's another story), and it's worth noting that codeine is addictive. I've heard of a couple of people getting themselves into trouble from too much of it :( There's also a percentage of people who are "poor metabolisers" so will get next to no recreational value from it at all.

Also remember that with a CWE some of the ACAP/ibuprofen will always still get through unless you're spending hours and using lad-grade filters.

stay safe!

moonyham

02-02-2010, 01:08

I would strongly advise against taking that much ibuprofen, especially if you do it more than once. Ibuprofen is extremely irritating to the stomach lining and even though you might not feel anything adverse, there would almost certainly be some damage occurring.

Why bother just dumping the pills in your mouth when you can do a CWE and have the codeine extracted in 5-10 minutes?? Stop being lazy people! CWE's are piss-easy to do, and you don't have to swallow the rest of the crap in the tablets to get the effect you're after. Be SAFE and treat your body with at least some respect.

*edit* Oh, and I'm not sure if it's been said in this thread but you should never EVER take more than 5000mg of paracetamol/APAP at once. EVER!! (that is only 10 x 500mg tablets, not very much when you're trying to get the codeine effect). It is extremely dangerous to go higher than that dosage, and paracetamol overdose is a pretty darn easy way to kill your liver, or just plain die :|

Well it wasnt all at once and yeah, it was a one off, im not stupid enough to do that regularly.

And if the daily maximum dose for ibu is like.. 2000mg or 2500mg, then doubling that i dought would do much damage wise. Some people take over a hundred nurofen plus a day in NZ and manage to still be kicking.

n3ophy7e

03-02-2010, 06:01

then doubling that i dought would do much damage wise.

What makes you say that??

Some people take over a hundred nurofen plus a day in NZ and manage to still be kicking.

I find that very difficult to believe....
That would be over 20 grams of ibuprofen per day...

I'm glad you don't do it though, it's very unwise.

swilow

03-02-2010, 06:20

^I have known people to take that much ibuprofen a day; usually they end up with a hole in their stomach, septicima, or requre dangerous surgery to remove dead stomach tissue. They mght be alive, but they cetanly ain't kickin :|

*edit* Oh, and I'm not sure if it's been said in this thread but you should never EVER take more than 5000mg of paracetamol/APAP at once. EVER!! (that is only 10 x 500mg tablets, not very much when you're trying to get the codeine effect). It is extremely dangerous to go higher than that dosage, and paracetamol overdose is a pretty darn easy way to kill your liver, or just plain die :|

Its actually killed people at doses of 4 grams- 8x500mg tablets (apap) which is, werridly, the highest recommended dose. I've personally taken up to 7 grams, followed by about two months of worrying. Not worth it.

From a HR point-of-vew, using nurofen plus is defintely safer then using paraceetmol/codeine mixes. For one, the extraction is easier- no massive amounts of matter to be disposed of; ibuprofen is soluble 1mg/1ml of water (paracetemol is 10mg/1ml) so even if you used 200 ml's of water, your not going to be ingesting that much ibupfrofen. Ibupfrofen is a lot more hydro-phobic then paracetemol as well. It also has a realtively wide therapeutic index; people take up to 4 grams a day (however, usually in enteric coating so they dissolve slowly in the bowel, not stomach). Paracetemol is also fatal to cats, in mg levels- another reason to use nurofen plus for CWE then panadeine or the like. Also, the molecular weight of ibuprofen means it will sink to the bottom of a container of water. Easily seen and removed.

You can tast ibupfrofen- if I do a CWE now, I always have a sip- if it burns a bit, and has the taste, I know to let the liquid settle, and re-flter.

Plus, nurofen plus has more codeine per tablet :)

Impacto Profundo

03-02-2010, 06:40

misses the daze when you could just break a N+ in half

*sigh*
aint cwe'd in an age too....

moonyham

03-02-2010, 06:51

What makes you say that??

I find that very difficult to believe....
That would be over 20 grams of ibuprofen per day...

I'm glad you don't do it though, it's very unwise.

Yeah, it is hard to believe, but you better, cause its true. Its actually becoming a problem here, because theres NO other painkillers you can get, and because doctors are NAZI'S when it comes to giving painkillers, people turn to abusing the only OTC pill that comes close to working. Sad state of affairs really, they are thinking of banning it soon because of this.

It wouldnt even be happening if doctors werent turning people away who legitimately need painkillers, but from my personal experience and others, it happens all the fucking time, and when your in pain your in pain.. people get desperate. Doctors here are fucktards and believe tramadol is 'very strong' and that 2mg of morphine 'is heaps'. Fuck them, fuck all of them.