Dancan
14-11-2006, 04:17
Yes, i'm just another face in the crowd of people who have fallen for this particular benzodiazapeine because of it's long duration and widely considered leaning towards sedation, rather than the hypnotic effects. But anyone who knows anything about benny's knows this is somewhat subjective and based on hearsay.
ANYHOO...
I started using benny's in about march this year, despite all my research about their sustainability IF you keep to a specif dose, having in my possession 20 UK pence 10mg valiums i went a bit nuts, with a fair amout of alcohol, but this isn't a problem, it was always relative, and always restrained because i'm not much of a drinker, and it's not worth the risk...
In about 2 months i'd gone from 20mg a night to finally about 100mg, even as much as 130mg, which created an almost total lose in memory, i mean that, only vague perceptions of the experiences remained the next day. I smoked alot of weed and i was surely in ecstacy every night...
Straight after they were gone i moved on to klonopin and dormicium. Although i've only used dormicium about 10 times, usually to end acid trips, it was so overwhelmingly powerful that despite all the valium, i was usually knocked out within an hour tops, if i tried to fight it...
Meanwhile i was using about 2 klonopins, 2mg, used singularly to start with, per week. This has since esculated over say, july until now to about 6 a week, always 2 at a time, never less or more...once or twice i used 3. Once semi-recently i used 1 dormicium and could stay up as long as i wanted, it was far less powerful. My current experiences are on a level, i'd guess a little less effective than one klonopin when i first started taking them...
I can't percieve whether or not i have ever experienced withdrawal, i haven't taken a significant break since march. I have some important questions...
1. Were i to quit cold turkey now, would you predict much anxiety, depression or paranoia as a direct result?
2. I'm about to...obtain some more, i'm aware that going for anything other than klonopin would be fairly nuts, and the social benny xanax would probably cause me to force myself to quit, given how quickly i would inevitably up the dose to get the regular effects. Given my complex mental state, tapering down isn't on the cards, right now at least. I have certainly considered it to get the full effects of my beloved klonopin. This is a leadign question because, were i to do this...
3. How long do you think someone in my position should take to taper down, and how long should i wait, clean, before using 1 of these, maximum again on a regular basis...Or indeed should the central motive of the temporary removal be to switch to another benzo eventually??? Long lasting, high potency per tablet and less leaning towards hynotic effects are prerequisits to any potential change. I'm often in the prescents of others.
It might help to know that i also use...cough:
Codeine, 400mg once a week
Cannabis every other day
Alcohol in small amounts nearly every day
Ecstacy about every 2-3 weeks
Speed when it's mixed in with the e ;)
Cocaine sometimes when i go out, less than once a month
ketamine when i have it (i know, NEVER MIX WITH BENNY'S)
Magic mushrooms, if only it could be more often...
And for sleeping:
Tramadol occassionally, Soma when i use codeine, Nytol 2-3 times a week, Sominex occassionally.
Well, lol, although you'd never believe me from this list, i'm actually alot smarter than it might suggest, i certainly do my research...However, i wouldn't be using (counting) 13 mentally altering substances if i didn't have severe physical and psychological disorders. (14 if you count acid, which i recently dropped...)
And would you believe i've never had a bad trip, my problems aren't latent, i'm adament to that extent, but suffice to say, i'm not really to taper off klonopins now, and when i do, it will only be to increase their effects and find a lower sustainable quantity to ingest. SO finally, given all the other affecting drugs, can i really sustain my current 4mg of klonopin at a time nigh indefinitely if i never up the dose?
Thanks again for any help, believe it or not, cannabis is the bane of my drug use, benny's have helped more than harmed in my less than humble opinion...Although given the memory loss, perhaps it is somewhat humble ;)
ANYHOO...
I started using benny's in about march this year, despite all my research about their sustainability IF you keep to a specif dose, having in my possession 20 UK pence 10mg valiums i went a bit nuts, with a fair amout of alcohol, but this isn't a problem, it was always relative, and always restrained because i'm not much of a drinker, and it's not worth the risk...
In about 2 months i'd gone from 20mg a night to finally about 100mg, even as much as 130mg, which created an almost total lose in memory, i mean that, only vague perceptions of the experiences remained the next day. I smoked alot of weed and i was surely in ecstacy every night...
Straight after they were gone i moved on to klonopin and dormicium. Although i've only used dormicium about 10 times, usually to end acid trips, it was so overwhelmingly powerful that despite all the valium, i was usually knocked out within an hour tops, if i tried to fight it...
Meanwhile i was using about 2 klonopins, 2mg, used singularly to start with, per week. This has since esculated over say, july until now to about 6 a week, always 2 at a time, never less or more...once or twice i used 3. Once semi-recently i used 1 dormicium and could stay up as long as i wanted, it was far less powerful. My current experiences are on a level, i'd guess a little less effective than one klonopin when i first started taking them...
I can't percieve whether or not i have ever experienced withdrawal, i haven't taken a significant break since march. I have some important questions...
1. Were i to quit cold turkey now, would you predict much anxiety, depression or paranoia as a direct result?
2. I'm about to...obtain some more, i'm aware that going for anything other than klonopin would be fairly nuts, and the social benny xanax would probably cause me to force myself to quit, given how quickly i would inevitably up the dose to get the regular effects. Given my complex mental state, tapering down isn't on the cards, right now at least. I have certainly considered it to get the full effects of my beloved klonopin. This is a leadign question because, were i to do this...
3. How long do you think someone in my position should take to taper down, and how long should i wait, clean, before using 1 of these, maximum again on a regular basis...Or indeed should the central motive of the temporary removal be to switch to another benzo eventually??? Long lasting, high potency per tablet and less leaning towards hynotic effects are prerequisits to any potential change. I'm often in the prescents of others.
It might help to know that i also use...cough:
Codeine, 400mg once a week
Cannabis every other day
Alcohol in small amounts nearly every day
Ecstacy about every 2-3 weeks
Speed when it's mixed in with the e ;)
Cocaine sometimes when i go out, less than once a month
ketamine when i have it (i know, NEVER MIX WITH BENNY'S)
Magic mushrooms, if only it could be more often...
And for sleeping:
Tramadol occassionally, Soma when i use codeine, Nytol 2-3 times a week, Sominex occassionally.
Well, lol, although you'd never believe me from this list, i'm actually alot smarter than it might suggest, i certainly do my research...However, i wouldn't be using (counting) 13 mentally altering substances if i didn't have severe physical and psychological disorders. (14 if you count acid, which i recently dropped...)
And would you believe i've never had a bad trip, my problems aren't latent, i'm adament to that extent, but suffice to say, i'm not really to taper off klonopins now, and when i do, it will only be to increase their effects and find a lower sustainable quantity to ingest. SO finally, given all the other affecting drugs, can i really sustain my current 4mg of klonopin at a time nigh indefinitely if i never up the dose?
Thanks again for any help, believe it or not, cannabis is the bane of my drug use, benny's have helped more than harmed in my less than humble opinion...Although given the memory loss, perhaps it is somewhat humble ;)