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northern_irishgirl
09-01-2007, 04:49
Hi, this is my first post here, but I've spent the past three hours reading this forum about Nytol and drugs with the same active ingrediant (I believe it's diphenhydramine hyrocholride) and had to register as the experiences have been so similar to mine I wanted to warn anyone NOT to take too many of these.

As a background, I drink often, but don't take illegal drugs as a rule. I've taken coke twice, speed twice, but found the comedowns to be more of an annoyance than the actual experience, so have stuck to alcohol for my highs.

I have taken Nytol in the past for up to a month at a time in times when my depression gets bad. Like others I thought I'd found an instant happy-pill, I had a sense of wellbeing and calm, and after about a week they would stop putting me to sleep and I'd just have the calm feeling for a few hours.

I'd never been on them on a dose more than 300mg at a time for periods longer than a month, and then I would perk up and stop buying them as my mood naturally sorted itself out.

I also never too alcohol the same day, before or after taking a dose of nytol.

Lately though I've been on them again, from around Oct to now, three months of taking doses of 300mg a day plus around 4 days out of 7.

I started to notice that when I took them my short term memory would be SCREWED. I only took them when I was at home, and not interacting with people in real life, I would just be in bed online on my laptop, but I would find myself having to pause midway through typing something and read over it again as I'd forgotten what I was writing, or who to.

I would have to stop midway through opening a new browser window as I'd instantly forget what I was about to look up.
I didn't really mind these effects too much, more of a nusiance.

A few nights I would find myself in bed trying to sleep on these doses, and thinking I was elsewhere, like staying at a friends house, then opening my eyes and remembering I was at home.

Other times I would start talking to my Mum, or a friend, only to realise it was just inside my head and the person wasn't there.
This happened a few times, but I put it down to tiredness on the drug rather than hallucination. Now I've read these forums I realise it was the drug, totally!

Last night was the worst. I must have taken about 6 or 7 Nytol in the space of 12 hours. I've been finding this week they'd been making me feel more panicky than good, but had still taken them :(

About 2 hours after taking the last three I felt very, very odd. I threw up but knew the 400mg or so I'd taken in the past 12 hours would be well absorbed into my system.
I began completely freaking out.
Nothing seemed real and I could hear things that weren't there.

I had to tell my parents (I'm 26 but am living at home at present) who obviously go very concerned. I assured them I wasn't trying to kill myself (I wasn't) and that I'd been taking them for the anxiety relief they'd given me.
We phoned the doctor, then the A&E who looked up my dose and assured me it would pass, just ride it out.

2 hours of hell.
Waves of feeling intensely strange. My Dad sat with me to make sure I was okay. It would either be to quiet and I'd ask him to talk, or too much would be happening.

I'd found this before, what now I realise are hallucinations in previous 'trips' on nytol I hadn't even known I was on... like thinking I was controlling the storyline on tv in a soap opera... or following strange trains of thought in my head only to snap out of it and think 'what the hell was I just thinking there?'.

After a few hours it wore off. I feel fine now apart from a little woozy and occasional noticable lapses in short term memory.
I will never, EVER take that stuff again, and any of my friends who knew I was taking it I will warn off.

Horrible, HORRIBLE drug.


Apologies for length, just glad I wasn't actually going mad last night and that other people have had the exact same experience as me.

malfunkshun
09-01-2007, 04:56
i hate the diphenhydramine also. it doesn't help me at all anymore. when i take it, it has the reverse effect on me that it's supposed to. it makes me nervous and jittery, and makes my legs move around like crazy (restless leg syndrome). very unpleasant.

northern_irishgirl
09-01-2007, 05:00
yeah. i have jerkiness still today 30 hours later from 'the bad part', and was shaking like I had parkinsons throughout all of christmas. I read oher accounts of the shakiness too.
I feel like I've had a lucky escape.
I wish I'd found these forums before last night, things would have rang true from previous nights and I might not have ended up so messed up last night.
NEVER again.

northern_irishgirl
09-01-2007, 18:50
I would agree too. I get the restless leg thing, but in my arms. It's horrible. You have to keep moving them.
I've found it to occur when I've taken ANY medication that makes me sleepy, but I don't get to sleep within the first hour of taking it, the arm thing can come on.
Very frustrating.

Boiling in Acid
09-01-2007, 21:08
diphenhydramine really becomes deleriant over 500mg's.
actually i like the buzz it gives at 500mgs sometimes i combine it with weak opiates, but at 750mg it was totally deliriant chaos; not recommended.
very dirty high btw, only used the russian 'dimedrol' brand.

actually i wondered whats a good dose to say knock out to sleep one dope sick of diphenhydramine??

AmbientDreamer
10-01-2007, 13:19
diphenhydramine really becomes deleriant over 500mg's.
actually i like the buzz it gives at 500mgs sometimes i combine it with weak opiates, but at 750mg it was totally deliriant chaos; not recommended.
very dirty high btw, only used the russian 'dimedrol' brand.

actually i wondered whats a good dose to say knock out to sleep one dope sick of diphenhydramine??

If you're referring to opiate withdrawal when you say dopesick, then using diphen is a bad idea. Although it does cause sedation, it also raises your heart rate which is a bad combo with the already high heart rate associated with opiate withdrawal.

In general, i personally find diphen to be one nasty drug. It doesnt help me sleep ussually cause of the RL and the tachycardia.

swilow
10-01-2007, 13:32
Dipenhrydramine is fucking awful- immediate panic surge as sson as the shit kicks in. I won't even touch one tablet of it.

BTW- doses over 6 50mg tabs van cause delerium if you sesnitive. I took five tabletd for nausea and kicks, only to experiene some awful shit.

MrMoss
10-01-2007, 15:09
Only tried it once at 2 x 50mg (last week as it happens) ... no effect whatsoever i.e. I was and remained wide awake. I'll stick with Zopiclone.

I've never heard of anyone using this stuff for depression though (insomnia of course and abused as a deleriant yes) .. how curious!

InHerOwnWrite
10-01-2007, 16:58
^^^
never heard of people using it for depresison either. though one time i'd been awake for way too long on a dose of adderall and was feeling really restless and nervous, and i took 50 mg diphenhydramine and it seemed to calm me down (though not put me to sleep).
i used it as a deliriant when i was a teenager a couple times, both times were awful so i never did that again. a lot of the same stuff happened to me, especially talking to people who weren't there, realizing it, and then seconds later starting the conversation up again.

lizmcc64
27-04-2009, 22:12
unfortunately im not proud to admit this but ive taken large amounts of the stuff for along time now. im in fear my liver is fookd basically and i cant seem to get any information from anywhere. If anyone reads this and knows anything i would be extremely greatful if u cud reply (i know how stupid ive been i dont need telling) i guess when your naive you think your invisible.

Unknown
27-04-2009, 22:36
^^^
If you believe something is wrong with your liver, set up a doctors appointment.

Wowza! This thread should of been moved ages ago.

OD ---> Trip Reports.

aa10
27-04-2009, 23:35
I would have the exact same things happen to me. I would forget what i wasa doing and even when i hadnt taken them during the day the next day my brain was fucked. I never ever spoke to anyone but yes i felt very strange and the soap opera fing in my mind ie i would imagine random things. I would take up to 10 or 12 a night and felt all of the things you mentioned. I eventually came off because i could sleep 14 hours a night i was a zombie and all i wanted to do was sleep in fact i missed lectures because i was so passionate about sleep on these drugs...it was winter too as well though. I had a hard time gettying off them as well it was about three days of withjdrawal...felt anxious, sweating and cold...pretty much opiate withdfrawal it was horrible as well as bad insomnia...

The Shaker
28-04-2009, 03:38
Diphenhydramine inhibits the reuptake of Seratonin so doesnt that mean that its an SSRI ?.So its not suprising it could be good for depression.
Also its an anti histamine so it has its uses.
As for a sleep aid it has never done anything for me whatsoever,that said after 9 months on Phenibut and the hell of withdrawal 60mg of Diazepam and 30mg Mirtazapine only puts me to sleep for a few hours.

The Shaker
28-04-2009, 03:51
Actually reading some of the trip reports Diphenhydramine seems to produce very similar effects to Dimenhydrinate (Dramamine) and even Datura.Talkng to people who arnt there,very real hallucinations etc.Deffinatly something that scares the shit outta me.But they seem to make the most interesting trip reports.

ledhead
28-04-2009, 09:33
As a background, I drink often, but don't take illegal drugs as a rule. I've taken coke twice, speed twice, but found the comedowns to be more of an annoyance than the actual experience, so have stuck to alcohol for my highs.

But never tried ganja?

And yes, out of curiousity I once decided to try getting "high" on Benadryl. The strangest part of the experience was indeed the phantom conversations. For the part of it that I was alone, I was never sure if I was talking aloud or not with those hallucinations. A strange and sometimes frightening trip, sobriety beats it all to hell and there is nothing recreational about it.

Not that it's useless. I heard it's good for allergies and small doses (>100mg) combine nice with opies if you're after sedation. Helps with the itch too.

unfortunately im not proud to admit this but ive taken large amounts of the stuff for along time now.

To each his own man...but seriously, why?

Lady Codone
28-04-2009, 13:19
Antihistamines make me feel horribly depressed and fatigued for days after I take them at recommended doses, so I don't see the recreational potential in them AT ALL. Sounds like they aren't exactly benign in high doses, either.

dilated_pupils
28-04-2009, 14:30
unfortunately im not proud to admit this but ive taken large amounts of the stuff for along time now. im in fear my liver is fookd basically and i cant seem to get any information from anywhere. If anyone reads this and knows anything i would be extremely greatful if u cud reply (i know how stupid ive been i dont need telling) i guess when your naive you think your invisible.

If you fear your liver is messed up at all, go see a doctor, and stop taking the diphenhydramine. I stay away from everything related to diphenhydramine, I've read a lot about it, and everyone usually ends up having a shitty time, and it's a shitty high as well. I'd feel pretty desperate (no offense to anyone who takes it though) if I took diphenhydramine at all, simply because I could get a hold of weed just as easy and it's so much better. Stop taking the diphenhydramine and start smoking weed. I mean I can tell you right now it's much healthier, and I'm sure you all wont deny that.

To the OP, sucks you had to get your parents involved. Did they realize you were trying to get high or did they not figure that out? I can't see someone acting anywhere normal enough on diphenhydramine to seem not high in front of their parents, regardless of their age. But hopefully for your benefit you got through everything just fine.

-dp