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nky859
27-01-2007, 21:55
very good generics, never done generic oxys before but this are well worth it.ee

JasonDaMack
29-01-2007, 00:42
i'm just curious i been takin oxys a while n shit.. but always chew them now if i chewed an 80 and it takes 30 min to set in or 40 w/e say if isnorte ionno a 40mg how fast does it set in and is it as strong as chewin the 80?

donkeyPUNCH
29-01-2007, 00:56
it sets in within 10 minutes completley and i dont know. it depends on how well you chew the 80. the snorted 40 will be completely crushed so more of it will be in IR form so you very well may get higher off of a snorted 40 than a chewed 80. but the 80 will definatly last longer.

enoughorangejuice?
03-04-2007, 06:41
yeah i got the 40mg darva OC's... they are horrible. i mean i tried to crush it up like a regular yellow ABG 40mg OC, and it is like 50% regular powder and 50% uncrushable chunks, that if you try to chop just shoots off the desk/surface area.

i also got an Rx for my Ritalin, but the pharmacy was out of the regular 20mg SR's, so i got Methylin E.R. and its the same shit, with the uncrushable little chunks, makes insuffilation really not an option, even after using a mortor, ugh.

sixpartseven
03-04-2007, 20:22
^ do you realize that you said "I" and "SWIM" in the same thought? If, for whatever stupid reason, you use the word SWIM, dont use the word I, too.

zekethemusicman
03-04-2007, 20:43
Ive had these before (quite often) and if they do pretty fine for me. The best way to do them is to shave them with a pipe clamp. Makes a small pile of snow almost. Feels so goooooood goin up your tooter. not as good as purdu or ABG but they are still good.

However, there are two other types of 80's that are almost absolutely un snortable (as in, even if you can powder them, you dont get high when you snort.) They are the big round purple-ish grey and the semi-diamond shaped blue ones. impossible to shave.

mikemikemike
03-04-2007, 22:37
Go to your local gas station, buy a pack of hose clamps,open and run alont the sharp end. This will gring it perfectly into a powder.

BANGINCOLOR
04-04-2007, 01:35
Have you got access to chemical abstracts? The 14-cinnamyl ester is discussed under 'Esters of the 14-hydroxy morphones.' It comes as a PDF so I can't Email/post it & I'm not typing in a 18 page document! Try examining the moleculein 3D, overlaying the etorphine skeleton. Oh, difficult to make the 14-cinnamyl of oxymorphone because the 3 position needs protecting/deprotecting.


You supposedly know all this about chemistry but, you can't email a PDF file??

The actual document pullout written by the invetors of oxycontin, Purdue-Pharma, says that when oxycontin is taken with a high-fat meal, 35% more oxycodone is discovered in the bloodstream.

You can Google search for this document also.

enoughorangejuice?
04-04-2007, 10:28
does anyone have any info or experiences with microwaving G163's or 164's, or any of the OC's that gel up?

If so, you heat it up for 30 seconds, take out wipe off the coating and crush and it will be like a regular ABG or brand name one, powdery-wise ?

enoughorangejuice?
05-04-2007, 02:18
bump.

anyone else try microwaving the OC's that gel up?

phrozen
05-04-2007, 02:50
bump.

anyone else try microwaving the OC's that gel up?

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showpost.php?p=4725760&postcount=50

tathra
05-04-2007, 09:03
News Flash: This isnt a chemistry forum. people who are actually CAPABLE of pulling of synths and conversions like the ones discussed here already know where to find the resources. another way to read that: if you dont know where to find the information for synths/conversions, you probably arent skilled enough at chemistry to do anything except blow yourself up

re: the original question: if they gel, dont shoot them!. remember next time to not get those generics. i've found the ABGs are basically the same as name brand. the ones you've got now, i hear plugging works really well [yes, i told you to shove it up your ass]

enoughorangejuice?
05-04-2007, 11:03
ok well i tried the crisping oxy method , it helped crush the chunks up a little bit more, even with a mortor & pestle but when insuffilated my sinuses became clogged and i could tell not much was being absorbed. 20mg felt like barely 10mg.

14 minutes ago i parachuted a little less than 10mg and it feels great already, much stronger than the 20mg insuffilated.

this sounds crazy to say, i know, but my friend confirmed the same feeling i describe above, even after using the cripsing method on the oxy. oh well, thank god i didn't waste ALL of it... but i did waste a decent amount.:(

SonOF
18-04-2007, 01:04
No offense, but it seems as tho nobody here knows what they're talking about. Next to the ABG's, the G 164's are by far my favorite generic. They crush up into a 100% fine powder (No chuncks like the TEVA ones) which you can snort just like the regular OC's.


I believe this was the case with the older G 164's made by IVAX. The new one's certainly do gel up when they get moist. In my experience the best way to go is just crush the pill into a powder and eat it/parachute it. They seem to be fine generics for those who don't need to snort their OC.

snowblowjoe
19-04-2007, 10:48
i dont understand that pill crisping technique by mobius dick at all either. its confusing as fuck and makes no sense at all. can anyone break this method down into simpler terms?

enoughorangejuice?
27-04-2007, 10:53
^^ basically heat it up in a microwave / light bulb or something to "crisp" it so it breaks up easier. i tried it 30 seconds in microwave... made it SLIGHLY easier to break up but nothing worthwhile. your best bet is to crush it up as best you can and parachute it. dont snort it, its a waste trust me!

BUT FINALLY i got some brand name OC 80's! wooohoooo. well only one left oh well.

bueller317
02-05-2007, 23:15
No offense, but it seems as tho nobody here knows what they're talking about. Next to the ABG's, the G 164's are by far my favorite generic. They crush up into a 100% fine powder (No chuncks like the TEVA ones) which you can snort just like the regular OC's. I just snorted half a G 164 (u hafta take the red shit off of course) and i'm EXACTLY as high as if I snorted a brand name OC 40. Don't tell him to parachute them, that's a huge waste of OC!

Alternity, I agree with you 100%. I just recently did 1/2 of an ABG 80 and a little later did 1/2 of a G164, and I really saw no difference between the two. It was like you said, the 164 crushes up into a good, fine powder, just like the ABG's do. I'm totally with you on the whole parachuting thing. That seems to be the biggest waste of a pill that I've ever heard of. Now that I virtually snort every Oxy I get anyway, it seems as if taking the pill is a big waste as well. But, yeah this other people have no idea what they are saying, these 164's snort just as well as the brand names or the ABG's. So everyone keep listening to Alternity, this person knows what they are talking about.

Beans
02-05-2007, 23:18
okay and you just keep bringing back old threads and beating dead horses and we'll all live happily ever after

enoughorangejuice?
03-05-2007, 00:22
beating dead horses haha, i love that expression

ToxicFerret
03-05-2007, 18:19
^^ Heh, beating what part of the horse?

Completely off topic I once knew this girl who owned a horse with a urinary tract infection and she claimed she had to massage it's dick every day until it discharged built up fluid.... I couldn't help thinking 'no that's just called jacking off a horse..'

Right. Sorry.

Will01996
03-05-2007, 21:00
"Oh, difficult to make the 14-cinnamyl of oxymorphone because the 3 position needs protecting/deprotecting."

Haribo -- I thought it was the 4 position that is so difficult. I thought high school kids can p/d the 3 position.

damon1872
04-05-2007, 10:42
i think they gel a little so people dont shoot them. i snorted one of the oblong generic 80s. kinda look footballish. they kinda gel in the back of ur throat. but i get the same effect. still gotta love the real ones..or the abg's. the ones i think are a real bitch to snort are the ones we call "burnies"..they got fuckin bee pollen or something in them..they burn like a bitch. i didnt even think they were realy oc's till i did some research and found them online.

~damoN~

enoughorangejuice?
04-05-2007, 11:15
i think they gel a little so people dont shoot them. i snorted one of the oblong generic 80s. kinda look footballish. they kinda gel in the back of ur throat. but i get the same effect. still gotta love the real ones..or the abg's. the ones i think are a real bitch to snort are the ones we call "burnies"..they got fuckin bee pollen or something in them..they burn like a bitch. i didnt even think they were realy oc's till i did some research and found them online.

~damoN~



then how come everyone raves about how great shooting the stupid methyln E.R. version of Ritalin that gels up? they all say that is their favorite to shoot, i don't get why they wouldn't like regular 10 or 20mg methylphenidate tabs or even 5mg dexmethylphenidate ones that don't gel up

shotthrutubes
05-05-2007, 17:08
Completely off topic I once knew this girl who owned a horse with a urinary tract infection and she claimed she had to massage it's dick every day until it discharged built up fluid.... I couldn't help thinking 'no that's just called jacking off a horse..'


that's gold right there