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this one sounds intriguing, any new experience?
planckunit
05-11-2009, 19:37
I have some escaline, will update when I get to try it (perhaps in a few weeks) =D And allyloxy-, propoxy- and isopropoxy- hopefully coming up soon too %)
That's super interesting. Looking forward to a report!
tiger108
20-11-2009, 05:26
Hi everyone.
I have several caps of the above chemical 40mg each. Pihkal made it sound like a medium dose, 60 mg is high. But person who gave it to me this said
that 60 mg is a medium and higher level should be 80 - 120mg. He is aware of what Pihkal says...
Does anyone had experiences with this chem?
Rogue Robot
20-11-2009, 16:13
Homeless -> PD
chemical messiah
20-11-2009, 23:44
tiger108,
start low and tell us how it goes
planckunit
23-11-2009, 20:48
I have some escaline, will update when I get to try it (perhaps in a few weeks) =D And allyloxy-, propoxy- and isopropoxy- hopefully coming up soon too %)
I tried escaline, it was nice. :) A more detailed report is in 'trip reports'
CannabisCorpse
25-11-2009, 00:07
i ate 100mg of proscaline one time and it didn't do nothing during 4hours, then i smoked a BIG joint and i got a high way different than a weed high, but nothing like i expected, i thought i would have visuals and all that but my visuals were all inside my head and i have had a big mindfuck during a while :P
i'd give it another try but i was disappointed by that drug
plusfourpirate
22-03-2010, 03:06
bump!
I have ~150mg of this compund left Ive been holding onto for about a year now. I initally took 75mg when I got it in, as did a friend, but it produced minimal results. Felt a little something- initial claminess and slight nausea follwed by minor mood elevation, giddiness, pupil dilation, but no fireworks. Where do you guys think I should go from here? Should I up it to 100, or should I bite the bullet and go for the whole 150 since the other 50 is pretty much useless? I wouldn't think it has a steep dose response curve due to it's high active dosage, but you never know considering it's relatively unexplored. Any input is appreciated.
love_sex_desire
22-07-2010, 23:13
It appears this has made it onto the market. Let's get some TR's for this one!
still no tr? well lets just hope i will have something to report tomorrow! ;) just ingested ~30mg. Going for an (apparently) low dose, and though i dont like seeing myself as the brave guinea pig, this seems like a relatively low dose. if anything (good or bad) happens, you will be the first to know
fractal fountain
04-09-2010, 03:30
^^ So how's your trip coming along?
MagickalKat777
04-09-2010, 05:14
I'm curious about this too because I'm thinking about picking up some of this stuff. Mescaline just seems too messy to deal with...
well... it goes like this. there are some good things, and some bad things, and some unexpected.
the good: mood enhanced, heightened senses (or at least this was the impression), very clear head (clearest on any substance ive tried so far), very much in control
the bad: long comeup, some nausea, some anorexia, long period of stimulation afterwards, high price/dose
the unexpected: very very discreet visuals, to the point where if one didnt look for them they might be completly missed. very much a "2c" kind of feeling about the whole thing... hard to explain. it is like you are on a hollowed out version of 2ci, without the visuals and a lot more clear headed.
ill post a more detailed TR in that particular section, though i wouldnt call this substance spectacular. if the price would go down, then i might reconsider (perhaps this is more of a problem with my vendor).
*TR http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=522598
thenightwatch
04-09-2010, 19:59
in my experience, dosing at the very bottom of shulgin's dosage range usually isn't enough. i wouldn't write the stuff off as "hollowed out 2ci" until you take a +++ dose. i'm fairly sure that you were just at a ++, maybe even a +...
it does suck how expensive this stuff is, but its not really much more expensive per dose than LSD (if you're buying individual doses of LSD, that is).
fractal fountain
04-09-2010, 20:06
Wonder if Nasal would be an effective ROA of this.
i know what you mean about dosing at the low end of the scale, but its always my policy when dealing with unknown substances... might have enough for a longer and more powerful trip (perhaps in the 50mg range), but will wait a while. been feeling a bit drained really. but personally i enjoyed it at this level as well.
i also didnt mean the hollowed out 2ci in a bad way. and like all substances, your results may vary.
the smell of the substance wasnt really all that bad, but the taste was chemical, and i suspect it to hurt when insufflated.
chemical messiah
01-11-2010, 02:12
Any new reports on this one?
fastandbulbous
01-11-2010, 20:31
Proscaline - any more experiences w/this one anybody? how psychedelic vs euphoriant compared to mesc?
cheers
Tried it recently and it was def missing something - more of a euphortiant than a psychedelic. I've got a couple of doses of 4-allyloxy-3,5-dimethoxyPEA but haven't got around to trying it yet. Will report back when I do
Solipsis
17-11-2010, 21:08
Tried it recently and it was def missing something - more of a euphortiant than a psychedelic. I've got a couple of doses of 4-allyloxy-3,5-dimethoxyPEA but haven't got around to trying it yet. Will report back when I do
Hmm a euphoriant doesn't sound all that bad to me, I should be receiving this as well. The timeline isn't all that clear to me though I should consult pihkal.
As a proper psychedelic I will fall back on mescaline hcl if need be, my days of cactus blubber are behind me.
chemical messiah
18-11-2010, 13:02
Lower doses of the 2cs to me seem like a euphoriant with little insight, revelations, ect. Maybe higher doses of proscaline might expand the mind a little more. I think peeps are writing this one off too quickly.
Solipsis
26-11-2010, 08:49
I heard from someone who has access to it, apparently together with friends who have experience with it that 75 mg can definitely get you in over your head. So about that 80-120 mg, it might be a purity thing or a personal sensitivity thing but it shouldn't necessarily be that PIHKAL is aiming much too low again.
Makes me wonder anyway, Shulgin should always have the pure material, perhaps some of the time when people think they are dosing too low it's because of a difference in purity?
About the proscaline: I do hope 40-50 is adequate because it means my 150 will go further.
i believe you will definetly feel 50mg, however you might want to combine it with something else to fully enjoy a new flavor to a trip. that is to say, a low dose might get you somewhere, but if you use it on top of another psychedelic (like lsd for instance) you might be better off.
<<ellisd>>
16-04-2011, 02:48
^ this one with JWH-018 (or weed) really gives a different effect. Becomes immersive (sp) and more psychedelic. On its own, doesn't really have a strong effect but when cannaboids are offered it really goes somewheres
bigbluemnm
20-04-2011, 00:22
^ this one with JWH-018 (or weed) really gives a different effect. Becomes immersive (sp) and more psychedelic. On its own, doesn't really have a strong effect but when cannaboids are offered it really goes somewheres
As with most, if not all PEAs. Cannabis can really take it up a notch.
Proscaline was tested at 50mg and found to be quite euphoric. Pleasant stimulation and some CEV. Some anxiety at the onset but thereafter was a nice ride but nothing too deep into the psychedelia at this dose. This seems like a good social lubricant.
75mg seems to be the sweet spot for this one. At 75mg there was emotional opening without any negative thoughts. Bodyload is nonexistent. Lasted a good 8 hours with lingering stimulation for another 2 hours.
Sounds like 5-MeO-DALT from phenethylamine family. Can you compare these two? I will get a good amount of this chemical in the next few weeks.
Solipsis
14-05-2011, 19:25
Proscaline has a longer duration, right? Also I think the stimulation would be less comfortable with 5-MeO-DALT than with proscaline but I have not tried either of them. Just sounds like it. Mescaline absolutely has one of the best types of euphoria for me so I am quite interested in trying proscaline. I have something along the lines of 150 mg of this material.
Sounds like 5-MeO-DALT from phenethylamine family. Can you compare these two? I will get a good amount of this chemical in the next few weeks.
the dalt has a tryptamine feeling whereas proscaline is more like mescaline/mdma and more electric/stimulating. procaline headspace is clearer. i prefer the proscaline.
^ Thanks for this info, I think I know what you're talking about. :)
^^ Yeah, proscaline should be more long-lasting, and it is a plus to me.
I am very excited about trying this chemical.
Offtopic: hmm, new avatar? :)
Several days ago I had experience with this drug. I took 50 mg two days after my LSD experience(1.5 blotters). I thought about publishing a TR, but this drug lacked action, so I was lazy to keep records.
I would this drug as phenethylamine version of 5-MeO-DALT. Light, mellow and long-lasting. Not very euphoric, but quite pleasant. It is also "colder" but cleaner and thought process isn't disrupted. There were waving and patterning during the peak, but then visuals subsided, and I wasn't focused on them.
It mixed with alcohol amazingly well. During T+08:00 -- T:09:30 (times are approximate) I drinked 1 liter of beer, and damn, alcohol was a lot better than usual: definite psychedelic tint and less sedating, and a lot of subtle differences which create unique complex feel to this drug combination.
<<ellisd>>
22-08-2011, 00:58
Tried this one up to 60mgs but gave up after that. It was nice, mellow, but pretty uneventful. I just wasn't getting anywheres as I pushed the dosage. Lacked the visuals and effects that I was expecting to be more mescaline like. I decided to mix it 50/50 with some 2C-D and found them both mixed really well together. A few bumps of P with some vaped JWH-018 had a great effect as well. Just wasn't that great on it's own, IMO.
plusfourpirate
23-08-2011, 11:07
ive tried this one a few times, even at close to a 100mg..
a few of my friends and i had some and after working our way up from 20 to 100mg then running out of product decided that shulgin ws def off on the dosage. its more potent than mescaline but not by too much.Id bet 125-150mg would have been enough for an actual noteworthy experience
but alas i have no more,nor does my previous source :(
ah well, i wasnt too crazy about it anywho.
Ive recently had the opportunity to try this chem again. After a relatively long period of cleanness, you could say my tolerances were back to zero.
The dose was ~40mg... compared to my previous trip at 30mg this was a different, more powerful trip, but again, not overpowering in any way.
I found it to be pleasant, long lasting (around 8h easy), quite clearheaded, and even a bit visual (certainly more visual than 30mg), with senses again enhanced (careful with loud music, as the senses seem to come into focus in turns). On the downside, it was accompanied by some body load (some "waves" of nausea every hour or so) along with muscle tension (especially in the back), and not that much increased music appreciation (which was a bit dissappointing).
The CEVs from this were on the other hand quite interesting to say the least. Might have been the brightest ive seen, with the closed eye darkness seeeming open space, with flashing lights that were indeed beautiful to look at. later on, some landscapes developed, but alas, they were hard to focus.
and this is also the first substance ive actually heard/ composed music in my head... and im not a musical person at all, but it did sound beautiful. It was like tunning in to some radio while driving slowly down a summer road, you hear some familiar music, and you enjoy the mix the dj plays.
also, this time, the "erotic" was also explored, and it was quite delicious, not impairing at all, and getting a backrub felt amazing.
next day, no hangover, just tiredness from not sleeping, and a difficult time sleeping even 20h after it. some muscle pain due to excessive dancing and prolongued sex, but really cant complain about that :P.... might write a TR later on if i get the time
overall, a very nice experience, and while i continue to think there are more worthwhile substances out there, i continue to believe this has a place (theres a lot worse substance out there). i will be revisiting, but the long duration will keep this reserved for just very occasional use.
<<ellisd>>
20-09-2011, 00:22
^ Sounds identical to the trials that I tested. Did you find the CEV's was like swimming trough thick, fluffy clouds with symbols and dream like sequences popping up as you traveled through the clouds?
hmm, not really like fluffy clouds, as the "background" so to say wasnt all light, it was more darker tones... but at times, when just laying relaxed, it did feel a lot like my mind was just bringing forth various dream sequences... it was actually a bit distinct from the more common form of geometric patterns i get for cevs. but the best part was that my mind was conjuring up music, making me think i was musically inclined (i dont have a musical talent irl)
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