GHB kits.

[ChEmIcaL_NiGhT]

I see on many sites there are places selling ghb kits online, they simply sell the two chemicals needed to produce GHB, when added to water.. Now my question is (and i know this should be in drug disscussion but it never works), is it illegal to order one of these kits to get shipped over here (Melb). Supposedly, the two chemicals AREN'T ILLEGAL.. that what erowid says anyway...
Anyone?

[Maxi]

They were outlawed quite a while ago http://www.bluelight.ru/ubb/frown.gif
GHB used to be pretty freely available (legally) but like most things, the law makers decided that it was too much fun http://www.bluelight.ru/ubb/wink.gif
So, unfortunately youll have to keep buying it illegally.
Maxi

[ChEmIcaL_NiGhT]

So what would happen if i ordered one off the net?? And shipped it to myself.. Supposedly they lable them as "concrete cleaners" or something as the chemicals supllied can be used as concreate cleaners (when not mixed up..).. So the two chemicals (unmixed are illegal?)... If they are banned, and we try and ship this "kit" through, would the cop's come and rape me if their discovered? Or would just the company who sent it get done.?

[ChEmIcaL_NiGhT]

Also you can order GBL, or 1,4 B off the net from many different suppliers.. GBL is supposedly converted into ghb in the bloody and acts in the same way.. these products are label as muscle builders, slep aids, and solvents... If i order one of these what would happen (if customs open it).. and what r the chances they would even know what it is!

[ChEmIcaL_NiGhT]

while im at it, can you buy these products here, in health stores/cleaning stores or alike.?? Products sucks as "revitalise" or "G3" OR "GH gain".. (i am not asking for suppliers, just "is it possible to get them here" .. i can do research if it is..
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[Mr. Horse]

with the recent media attention GHB, 1,4b etc has been getting, you can be almost garrenteed that any sources for GHB will now either not send you kits, or they will be stopped through custom, because they will know what they are looking for.
Be careful, penalties for G are rising.

[BigTrancer]

I believe (thought at this stage I'm still trying to dig up the link) that someone posted a while back, maybe a year ago, about a friend of a friend who'd ordered one of these kits online, only to have it delivered by the CIB and be charged with something along the lines of "intent to manufacture a date-rape drug". Whether this was actual fact or hearsay I'll leave up to you. But when I find the link I'll post it here.
Safest to assume that since GHB is illegal, any combination of chemicals you can order together in order to make it will be illegal too.
More later when I find that link.
(UPDATE:

CrazyAustralian -- Tue Mar 28 08:57:00 2000
Re: Not A Pill Report - Chemical Alternatives... [re: BlackMonk]
Also, please don't try to import a ghb kit into Australia. I have been having extensive email conversations with someone who tried and got busted. he was EXTREMELY lucky not to get jail.
They tried to nail him with 'intention to manufacture a dangerous date rape drug'
Fuck thats harsh!!!

BigTrancer http://www.bluelight.ru/ubb/smile.gif
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[Cowboy Mac]

even if you do get the GBL through you will probably have flagged yourself as GBL is a watched chemical. If you reaaaaly wanted to order it dont buy it with the other chemical needed (as to avoid the obvious manufacturing of GHB) and get the other chemical locally. I would recommend not attempting it, i would think its not worth it.

[Maxi]

I wouldnt have thought that there was a need to synth GHB from GBL, as GBL will do the synth in you body anyway?
As for importing GBL, i think that would be a definate bad move, as it is a watched substance.
As i said, i thought the GHB kits were now illegal, so i am assuming that the web sites you saw them on are old.... but i may be wrong.
Please email me the links if you could.
Maxi

[Sivâ:]

sorry for sounding silly, but what would be the chemicals one would need to manufacture it, and are there any docs on this at all?
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[elvis]

someone please fill me in: i have never used or even seen G. What is it and what does it do?

[johnboy]

http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/ghb/ghb.shtml
always go to erowid first when you dont know what chemical is. after you've read everything there, and you still have questions, feel free to ask em.

[ChEmIcaL_NiGhT]

BAsically its "suppposedly" the easiest stuff sround to make.. basically you need GBL (gamma butyrolactone) and NAOH , which is LYE, commonly used in gardening and stuff. NAOH is easy to get, GBL is not anymore. Baically is just combin the two (naoH and GBL) in distilled water and DADAAAA. there you have it...

[ChEmIcaL_NiGhT]

Through a bit of reasearch i have just fouind out, that GHB, GBL ARE illegal to import. 1,4 B is not , as we can import *deleted* to give all my cd's a good clean heheheh. Its not on the watched or banned list.. I know i few people who have imported this, no trouble. (1,4 B turns into ghb in your body, but its NOT AS GOOD FOR u. though either is E!
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[ChEmIcaL_NiGhT]

BUt a warning reportedly this is VERy easy to go overboard with.. 1 - 2ml is enough.. This because of the wide known fact that you shouldn't mix GHB with alcohol. So when 1,4 B is broken down in the body, it is turned into 2 things, GHB, and ethonal.. ethonol been a VERY pure strong Alcohol. So be WAYYYYY care full with this stuff. good value for money though. :O) And wouldmn't you love to just offer some to somebody..
Them: "whats that you got dude"
You: "Oh its this realy kewl shit like ghb"
Them: " what is it then"
You: "tape head cleaner, have a swig *grin*"
hahaha

[Miss Flea]

New Zealand Raver Dies From GHB - also known as FANTASY
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/health/story_12171.asp

[BongoBongo]

Bump this one

[keystroke]

if you don't know what you're doing with GHB and have never tried it before I'd suggest not attempting to make some. Find a trusting friend that can help you use if you must, for the first few times.

[gfresh27]

I wouldn't go near trying to import GBL now. If anyone is reading this: this thread is really old and I would say you would get majorly done over with the increaseg GHB awarness.

[roll with it]

so whats the deal.. just need tape cleaner

[Dvah]

Why go to all the bother of potentially getting caught making GHB when it is very obvious to everyone right now that there is a "G" seige in process, when you can very simply and inexpensively purchase 1,4b?
(which is really what the media hype is about anyway, there hasn't been real GHB readily available for quite some time to my knowledge)
I wouldn't be trying to think up weird and wonderful ways to mix this concoction at this point in time, even ppl I know that sell this have cooled right down in fear of the latest publicity it is attracting.
Although I do believe the media goes overboard with their accusations, I have to say that I don't think in the case of 1,4b that it is unwarranted at all.
Its a dangerous drug, and lets face it, there are alot of uneducated or just plain ignorant ppl out there.
If anything, I hope that this does cause an awareness to everyone out there that is thinking of/or currently taking 1,4b and they do there research and use this drug safely, or not at all.

[mashedpotatohead]

ChEmIcaL_NiGhT:

Heed the advice above. I used to order GBL from these overseas sites... but that was many years ago and before the cops/customs cracking down.

Following customs cracking down on the importation of the G kits a mate of mine ordered one... but instead of receiving the G he and his flatmates were woken at 5am one morning by 6 Federal Police and search warrent banging on their front door.

Not worth the risk any more aye.

[Fry-d-]

Chem probably did then but wouldn't now ;)

With all the fuss about this stuff now you would have to be a bit silly thinking ordering chemicals over the internet wouldn't get noticed. 3 years ago though, completely different story.

[BigTrancer]

When I first came to BL towards the end of 1999, GHB was legal and these kits were ordered online by people commonly. But, these things change quickly... five years later it's very hard to find GHB at all. Drug war victory?

Not bloody likely methinks, people find a way. When it was legal there was a fraction (probably <1%) of the people regularly out on "G" that there are today, five years later. Sure, the chemical is slightly different, but the effects (and more importantly the short-term safety hazards) are to all intents and purposes identical. And of course, since it's now illegal nobody can be sure of the concentration of the black-market substances.

BigTrancer :)

[Cactii]

for the dollar or three u pay for a ml of this kidney cleanser i dont think its worth sitting in gaol for five to ten years for intention to manufacture.

[gfresh27]

Originally posted by BigTrancer
When I first came to BL towards the end of 1999, GHB was legal and these kits were ordered online by people commonly. But, these things change quickly... five years later it's very hard to find GHB at all. Drug war victory?

Not bloody likely methinks, people find a way. When it was legal there was a fraction (probably <1%) of the people regularly out on "G" that there are today, five years later. Sure, the chemical is slightly different, but the effects (and more importantly the short-term safety hazards) are to all intents and purposes identical. And of course, since it's now illegal nobody can be sure of the concentration of the black-market substances.

BigTrancer :)

Yeah, I remember about 5 years ago you could even order pure GHB powder off the internet and get it here no problem with all the different chamical names it can be listed as. Back in the day when people would ask what you've had they were like G what? how things have changed :D

[roll with it]

well we need to find chems like that, that arent ilegal atm

[Psychadelic_Paisly]

oh, there's people working on it, don't you worry ;)

[roll with it]

good to see. just make sure you post a thread on bluelight if anything comes up ;)

[BigTrancer]

Heh heh heh.