delsym cough syrup

[juggalostoner]

wut is so bad about using this recreationally.... cuz i just drank 3 1/2 oz.

[Party_Animal]

Your liver has to process all that sugar in the syrup...and I'm not sure about delsym..but i know many brands contain things other than DXM that will make you feel quite ill.
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[morninggloryseed]

Because it makes you get on the computer and type really stupid and pointless threads saying you are high on DXM, bored and you don't know what to do with yourself.
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[xylo-]

Delsym is time-release. It's like little DXM chunks coated in plastic suspended in syrup. It's not *bad* per se, but you'll feel much milder effects and trip for a much longer duration, which is usually considered undesirable.

[hanky8r]

Someone ripped me off this way too, I just found out today.

Basically I go buy some Delsym, for a cough, not for recreational use at cvs thisevening. Don't ask me why I got delsym instead of nyquil/robo, but I did. Well I go to take the dose, and I'm like "wait, I've had this before".

Since the taste is so distinct and good compared to other cough medicines, I recalled where I remembered it from. Someone sold me "lean", in a prescription bottle with Tussin-Ex on the label. I think he may have done the water based extraction, because I remember it having lots of crystals in it, more than the bottle has per tsp.

Well I paid that motherfu**** $20/oz, getting 3 total and splitting with a friend (1.5/ea). Assuming it was lean at the time, I drank it, and remember thinking how good it tasted, and how many crystals were floating in it. As you know, real lean combined with weed is suppossed to make screwed-rap sound awesome. So I drank it, waited 30 min, then me and my buddy smoked a blunt. I'm not sure if it was placebo or not, but after the night I was happy with the purchase.

But obviously now I'm pretty angry. I'm guessing he did the water extraction, but I'm still unsure if that would leave you with a product looking like the original, just with all the crystals in it.

[dead_head94]

Deslym will work, it contains DXM polistyrex instead of the HBr salt...it will take a long time to absorb

[hanky8r]

Someone said that Delsym is bad because of the polisyrex, something that theirs a plastic that slow absorbtion. Well this person said never to to Delsym, because that plastic will be going around in your body along with the DXM, and would get deposited in areas such as brain.

Is this true that the DXM polistyrex would put you at danger because of this? The only reason I would think not, is that wouldn't it just stay in your stomach, and slowly break down there. And thus the plastic additive would be simply passed down the intestines instead of being absorbed into the blood supply?

[subdefy]

your dissociatied for longer and with the potential of olney's lesions it would induce far greater brain damage, it lasts longer. Personally I don't believe Olney's Lesions is true but I believe thats why most people think its "bad". Make sure you have at least 24 hours if your going to be using Delsym.

[MockTurtle]

Originally posted by subdefy
your dissociatied for longer and with the potential of olney's lesions it would induce far greater brain damage, it lasts longer. Personally I don't believe Olney's Lesions is true but I believe thats why most people think its "bad". Make sure you have at least 24 hours if your going to be using Delsym.

http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/dxm/dxm_health3.shtml

http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/dxm/dxm_health2.shtml

Even if the theory was true, a small dose over time most likely wouldn't be any worse than a large dose over a shorter period of time. To quote the original William White article about the lesions:

"The risk of brain damage is worse the longer you stay high at any given time; constant moderate-dose use is probably just as damaging as a brief, high-dose use"

Don't get me wrong though, it probably isn't good for your brain.

[ebola?]

okay...what is "lean"?

[hanky8r]

What is lean? "Lean" is the term used to describe high strength cough syrups, most often those containing promenthozyne and codeine.

Here's a little history on how it came about:

I'm from Houston, Tx., the home of screwed music. In the mid to late 90's, a mixer known as DJ Screw became popular for slowing down music to around 80-90% of it's normal speed. Screw discovered that when recreationally drinking cough syrup, that rap music that was slowed down sounded very good under these circumstances, hence screwed music. Often the effects need to be heightened in order to be fully felt with the use of weed. He was the first to discover this new music style, and thus is very popular and respected in Houston, and in many places in the U.S. such as Atlanta and Lousiana.

The term lean I believe was coined to describe the effect that happens when you do it; describing how you lean and can't stand up straight when you have drank enough of it.

Other terms for lean include drank, purple stuff. You may remember the Ying Yang Twins song about lean that came out around 2000/2001. Typically it is mixed into drinks, many of which include Big Red, Sprite.

It's hard to describe the effects, but when experiencing this, and smoking weed, screwed music is the best stuff to listen to. However, you have to be careful because if you drink too much, it will basically stop your heart. DJ Screw died of this around 2000.

I love this type of music, it takes awhile to get used to it, but screw music is almost like a drug in itself once you start appreciating it. If you've never heard it, simply search for a song title, and just put "screwed" behind the title.

If you like rap, and you like to smoke weed, download some screwed songs, get high and listen to them. Many of you I'm sure will like it.

[digital_phreedom]

^^

i like the idea of slowing music down while on DXM but uh...

if you do to much it will "like, stop your heart" ?? ... don't make such a generalized comment.. i'm pretty sure, even at huge doses, DXM doesn't have much action on the heart.. the main actual causes of death while on DXM are asphyxiating (sp?) on ones own vomit (this is called the hendrix style), or most likely slowly dying in your sleep as your lungs slow and slow and finally cease to breathe

[hanky8r]

digital_phreedom, the first line of my post said lean typically describes prometh-codeine cough syrup. the post was referring solely to this form, and that is what dj screw overdosed on.

[qwe]

"Delsym is time-release"

dammit, that explains why we didnt trip off it till the next morning (and only slightly)

[kaoskid]

damnit why doesn't anyone use a better analogy for explaining polystyrex, it's not dxm coated in plastic, it's the polystyrol salt of dxm (chemically bonded not coated) learn some chemistry people!, if you're going to use something, learn about it first! Grrrrrrrr stupidity makes me angry!

[thursday]

here's a tip for the person who started the thread:
find out what are the risks/harm of consuming a substance BEFORE you actually take it.

just a thought.

[PlunX]

1. It's "promethazine."

2. True "lean" is usually described as Tussionex, but since a lot of APAP/Codeine and Promethazine/Codeine are cheaper and more widely used, the term now describes any cough syrup that contains an opiate cough suppressant and/or pain killer.

3. DJ Screw only screwed music 27% slower than it's normal speed. Nowadays, most screwed songs are between 17% and 24% slower than normal speed.

I don't mean to be an ass or anything, but whenever someone throws up a lot of information with a few mistakes here and there, I feel obligated to correct them. Also, promethazine-containing cough syrups are now beginning to lose their popularity because of the unwanted side-effects that promethazine can cause. Usually the side-effects are dry/red eyes, odd skin sensations, and a somewhat elvated heartbeat, but there have been a lot of cases in which the promethazine acts more like a anticholinergic substance, most notably diphenhydramine. Also, there have been reports of mislead people finding or getting prescribed to promethazine-only pills or promethazine-only syrups and having very bad reactions especially since they were thinking it would feel more like the opiate cough syrups. Just wanted to clear some things up. Peace.

[PlunX]

Oh, and DJ Screw died from a heart attack, not an overdose. The overdose thing was just a rumor. Peace.

"Initially the cause of Screw's death was unclear which resulted in an onslaught of widespread speculation. Initial reports were saying that he died of a heart attack while others are saying that he died from an overdose induced by a lethal mixture of soda and codeine cough syrup. For those who don't know, that particular method of getting high which was brought to many people's attention by the popular Three 6 Mafia song 'Sippin' On Some Syrup' has been the cause of more than a few tragedies. Folks who are close to the Screw emphatically insisted that these were vicious rumors and the recent autopsy results proved it was indeed a heart attack."

[hanky8r]

Originally posted by PlunX
Oh, and DJ Screw died from a heart attack, not an overdose. The overdose thing was just a rumor. Peace.

"Initially the cause of Screw's death was unclear which resulted in an onslaught of widespread speculation. Initial reports were saying that he died of a heart attack while others are saying that he died from an overdose induced by a lethal mixture of soda and codeine cough syrup. For those who don't know, that particular method of getting high which was brought to many people's attention by the popular Three 6 Mafia song 'Sippin' On Some Syrup' has been the cause of more than a few tragedies. Folks who are close to the Screw emphatically insisted that these were vicious rumors and the recent autopsy results proved it was indeed a heart attack."

I appreciate the clarification PlunX. I was just trying to get the idea out of screw, his music, lean, etc.

I was unaware of the heart attack story. Heartattacks can be brought on by how you treat your body in pre-existing conditions. Now I'm not making a fact based statement that lean abuse can bring on a heartattack, but in my OPINION, I am still leaning (no pun intended) toward believing that the 2 had a relation. As you said in your post PlunkX, lean-use side effects include elevated heart rate. If Screw did lean enough, theirs a posibility that for him this could have been a substantial factor in the eventual heart attack he faced. I'd like to end the discussion of his death here though, as no one except God and Screw know what happened.

RIP Robert Davis JR .......................... DJ Screw

Speaking of slowing it 27%, I do realize this to be true because I've always noticed his music was always slower than most done today. I think part is due to the particular types of rap he chose to slow down. Today I believe a faster-slowed down speed is used because time is money on the radio/cd's.

[LeadSingerDisease]

Dude, find out the info on the drugs first, then do them.