View Full Version : The most overlooked psychedelic combo...
...is the HIPPIE SPEEDBALL!!
Now before you laugh at this high (strong coffee and then a spliff), let me assure you that after years of research I have perfected a method in which the synergy between caffein (or ephedrine) and THC can produce a magnificent, powerfull, and enlightening high verging on a psychedelic trip.
My research began early in my highschool years when I began my carreer as a coffee addict, often consuming massive quantities of expresso-strength brew and drawing all night. Later I discovered pot. A match made in heaven? Indeed. To drink very strong coffee upon waking provides much psychic energy, and then the addition of fine herb kind of "harnesses" all the speedy energies of the coffee and produces what I like to think of as a very focused, streamlined, clear, and thoughtfull mind-space, ideal for creativity. Do not mock me! I am seriouse when I say the "hippie speedball" is a true gift to mankind. I will explain:
The frantic and overly practical stimulant effects of coffee are lulled and soothed by the mellow weed, yet the psychic energy remains present as a kind of restrained vibratory thought-clarity. And the danger of weed is that it has a tendancy to slow you down and make your house cluttered and your car funky. I mean, I love herb more than anyone, but potheads can be so annoyingly dreamy and amotivated! Pre-loading with the black breakfast beverage can turn a lazy stoned afternoon on the couch into a sharp, thoughtfull, and clear penetrating high. But recently I have delved even deeper into the pristine crystal caffein-stone with the following experiment:
1) make a potent batch of pot butter. (I am narrowing in on about an eighth and a half of kind bud per oral dose, but yr milage may vary) Adding chocolate chips and freezing makes a pleasantly scrumtouse fudge.
2) powder a decent number of caffein/ephedrine pills and mix this with the fudge. I have a ludicrouse tolerance to the "soft" legal stimulants, but I find 50-75 mg ephedrine plus 100-150 mg caffein to be quite electric without being overly jittery or naseau-inducing.
3) Take the jar of fudge to a rave or club and eat it before walking in the door. You should not require anything else to put you in "the good place".
Don't knock it till you've tried it, you will not be dissapointed.
Sadly, you'll have to select another name. Heroin and cocaine together form the universally recognized "Speedball". John Belushi died that way.
I picture a Hippie Speedball as being allowed to smoke some bud while enroute to the emergency room.
That's all cool or whatever but let's rename it "The Kiddie Speedball". ;)
caffeine/ephedrine = nasty shit
meth and pot go very well together for me though
I think that's why he called it the "Hippie Speedball" rather than just a "Speedball". I thought that was pretty obvious. I've seen other slang terms incorporating the word "speedball" and it's always mixing an "upper" drug with a "downer drug". But yeah whatever.
And caffeine/ephedrine is nasty shit? It sounds like you like meth and without pseudoephedrine/ephedrine you probably wouldn't have any meth!
unc0mm0n
16-07-2002, 01:02
I used to love ephedrine (yellow jackets, xenadrine etc) but then they started giving me terrible stomach aches so I stopped. A few weeks ago I took 2 yellow jackets and the stomach ache came back, so I'm not a big fan of ephedrine. I don't even want to mess with meth so ahh well.....
*CrystalMeth Bunny*
16-07-2002, 01:20
Yeah, I could see how that works, and for me, a less potent stimulant would be ideal.
For me, meth after weed kinda cancels out most of the effects of pot. I haven't tried it the other way yet.
[quote]And caffeine/ephedrine is nasty shit? It sounds like you like meth and without pseudoephedrine/ephedrine you probably wouldn't have any meth!
I am aware of that, thats why you make something better out of it. Its a precursor to something good, doesn't mean that it in itself is good. I personally don't like anything that makes you feel like shit, gives you a feeling like your heart is going to explode all without any good sideeffects except maybe if you are fat and don't want to fall asleep.
StuffedTiger
16-07-2002, 03:30
Yeah I agree caffeine/ephedrine can actually be worth while if you smoke weed with it. It's not something I do all the time but every now and then I like to pop a couple diet pills before I smoke. The weed really keeps away the nasty jittery effects of the stimulants and the caffeine/ephedrine give you a much more energetic talkative high.
I especially enjoy driving while on this combo.
[ 16 July 2002: Message edited by: StuffedTiger ]
Hmm... caffiene does nothing for me, and it never has as far as I can tell. I know people who need to have a coke or a mt. dew to get their fix of caffiene, or to help them stay awake.
I've drank large amounts of mt. dew and cocacola and felt no effect.
Weed always put me to sleep if I smoke alot, and I feel like I just wasted alot of it since I slept it off, so I decided why not try to stay awake with caffiene.
I brewed up about 6 cups of coffee and filled a huge beer mug up twice, put in a bunch of sugar, and a little bit of cream since I don't enjoy the taste of black coffee much. Drank it all down and smoked a bunch of pot. I went downstairs, sat down and watched tv in a chair, and I nearly fell asleep. If someone hadn't come to the door I probably would've.
I've yet to try ephedrine, but I may need to soon.
PlurredChemistry
16-07-2002, 04:10
i'm on it
caffeine makes me so jittery i can't wait to try it...
PuristLove
16-07-2002, 05:41
I'd like to reccomend Yerba Mate in place of coffee or ephedrine in this combination. Mate contains a chemical similar to caffeine, but much clearer and less jittery... It is magnificent with pot.
Yerba Mate is a traditional Argentine beverage and comes from the leaves of a bushy South American tree. The shiny leaves do actually contain caffeine (to 2%).
The effects are relatively long lasting, inducing a type of mental clarity and expansion of though processing capabilities. A feeling of
enhanced memory and accelerated intellect is often experienced, however the racy edge of physical and mental stimulation is seldom noted.
Crimson Cloud
16-07-2002, 06:29
This is an insult to hippies everywhere. Caffeine can be a very useful tool as it provides wakefulness and stimulates thought processes and eliminates mental clouding and thats why I love it, but if you're seriously trying to get high just do some real drugs. Like others said, if you like the stimulant/marijuana feeling try it with meth. It's a beautiful thing!
goodmorning everyone i always thought the hippie speedball was the combination of mate/ green tea some guarana tabs and kava kava extract pills supplemented with some raw herb. not coffee though thats like crack right. hahaha just kidding.
PuristLove
16-07-2002, 07:06
fractal, you got a source on that? (yerba mate containing caffeine) Everything I've read says it contains several other caffiene-similar compounds but not caffiene itself.
I used to enjoy this, but when combining it with lots of coffee, it went wrong :)
Panic Attack from Weed and Caffeine combo (http://www.bluelight.ru/cgi/ultimatebb1.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=38&t=002880&p=)
PuristLove I have not read to much on yerba mate but it is said to be a potent caffeine source and i dont' know what else it would contain stimulant wise.
http://paranoia.lycaeum.org/stimulants/yerba.mate
PuristLove
16-07-2002, 18:57
fractal, What I've been reading is that yerba mate contains several members of the xanthine family (to which caffeine belongs). It appears that all the testing done in the United States was done in the 70's and 80's and the tests they used would have shown any xanthine as caffeine. Some other researchers claim it doesn't contain caffeine, but other xanthines, primarily Mateine. However, this research is spotty, and most of the sites supporting it are sites that also sell yerba. So in my opinion, the jury is still out.
I'm not gonna link to any of this, because those sites are also sources, but you can do a quick google search for Mateine and find them.
Pure
gun toting hip gansta
17-07-2002, 19:21
fuck all that, what you need is a good cup of PG tips tea and joint.
tea and weed =good
coffee and weed= poo ;)
TheGreenPhantom
18-07-2002, 01:21
Bruthas & sistahs -- what'choov gotta try is the WEED + GINSING combo!
Besides giving you energy to run 6-8 city blocks without feeling in the least exhausted, it enhances the clarity of your vision. And that's no bullshit.
BTW -- you gotta eat a slice or two of the STEAMED ROOT, or "Korean Ginseng Root in a Bottle" (marketed by Royal King as well as Wang) to get the effects I'm talking about. :) :)
PuristLove well the link i have posted is the only doco i have read on yerba, so obviously i'm going with that one.
geogheghan
18-07-2002, 04:43
I don't mean to sound like a city-boy here but how in the heck could meth or ephedrine or whatever ever compare to a cup of coffee and a spliff?
that's like platonic goodness.
aren't those other combos a little "w.t.?"
(don't get mad)
PuristLove
18-07-2002, 05:50
fractal, that link is years old, and an email from a newsgroup. I wouldn't really consider it science fact.
-StoneR-
18-07-2002, 06:06
Marijuana is fantastik with anything.
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