Best natural psychedelic with little nausea?

slush puppie · 31-07-2010, 20:34

My friend wants to go away for a couple of days for his birthday, so I was thinking we could go to Stonehenge and trip together for the first time (his first trip ever). He has quite a phobia of vomiting though. Hopefully weed and meclizine will counter this, however he doesn't like taking pills either so it may be that he chooses not to take the meclizine.

Would really like us to take a naturally occuring psychedelic rather than LSD or a 2C, given the setting and all. Liberty caps not an option, no stockpile. Hawaiian baby woodrose are usually pretty sickening for me, no matter what I do with them (soaking, peeling, burning etc), also I don't rate the trip that much. I am yet to try mesc in any of its forms, would love to hear your nausea-related experiences on this, and anything else you can think of.

As always, your opinions would be greatly appreciated!

Bagseed · 01-08-2010, 11:16

I never tried Mescaline, but from what i've heard, it's common to vomit on it (when cactus is consumed, i have no idea how it is with extracted/synthetic Mescaline).

I personally would prefer LSD because it never made me nauseas, but if i would only go with "natural" psychedelics, i'd choose shrooms, because I didn't have that problem with them either.

craigyt2k · 05-08-2010, 03:34

cuctus is quite nauseating depending on dose.. dunno about extract though the slight nausea is worth the trip

mushys were alright for me, again, slight discomfort but overall worth it.

LSA hbwr seeds put me in pain followed by a HEAVY Trip. dunno if extract would be better. still well worth it

ayahuasca, awesome trip, spewed helplessly layed sideways on the bathroom floor ahah, oh the fun, top trip too

theres my overview on natural phycadelics anyhow, as you can see im not put off by being sick/purge whatever

Mitchi · 05-08-2010, 04:12

I have never puked, after eating cactus. I get nausea though.
I have tried eating ginger before consumption. Which lead to, having no nausea at all.

g0to · 05-08-2010, 06:21

Yeah do the ginger trick, also someone else has reccomended some type of Serotonin antagonist which only effect 5HT3 receptors (the one which makes you have nausea when activated) but I would personally just eat some sushi/ginger then tripballs

Chaos Butterfly · 06-08-2010, 02:47

shifting from homeless to Psychedelic Drugs.

Feste · 06-08-2010, 02:56

Have you been to Stone Henge before? Just as a forewarning it'll probably be full of tourists - not everyone is comfortable around a bunch of strangers whilst tripping.

Jamshyd · 06-08-2010, 06:34

You really don't have much choice with the limits you've set. Since Morning Glory seeds are even more nauseating than HBWR and shrooms our not an option, you're pretty much left with Cactus, which is infamous for nausea.

Btw, for nausea, a more effective "natural" option (IMO) to ginger is scopolamine (BUT ONLY IN MEDICINE FORM - DON'T EAT HENBANE!!). In canada, we have scopolamine patches OTC and they work very well.

skyHiGuy · 06-08-2010, 06:43

just seen this thread about elemi oil which some claim is trippy though other say is delrium inducing
[http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=508741

never tried this myself though as my trip of choice is always shrooms

Delta-9-THC · 06-08-2010, 06:56

I usually find mushrooms nauseating and anxiety provioking and much prefer pure synthetic drugs (look up 4-aco-dmt, best beginner psych IMO). That said, I have used an Anti-Emetic called Zofran(Odanestron) which worked pretty well too cover the nausea. It should work for mushrooms as well I'd think. IT is typically used for cancer patients on chemo.

The problem is getting it. I was lucky to have a big bottle prescribed to me for extreme nausea.

SamhainGrim · 06-08-2010, 13:23

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Originally Posted by slush puppie

Hopefully weed and meclizine will counter this, however he doesn't like taking pills either so it may be that he chooses not to take the meclizine.

You already have a fine natural anti-emetic there, and one which goes well with most psychedelics, natural or otherwise. You should be absolutely okay whichever route you end up taking. Even with the most brutal cognac hangover known to man, I struggle to throw up with good weed.

shiv · 06-08-2010, 15:00

LSD made me a little nauseous but I didn't ever think I was going to be physically sick, bit like a mild hangover.

Knowing that it's not going to last the whole night helps a lot, also you can buy ginger tea. Works really well, stick it in a flask and it'll warm you both up as well as settle his stomach.

botfly · 06-08-2010, 17:40

LSD isn't natural. I would say DMT even though I haven't tried it before. Salvia doesn't cause any nauseas but that is some wierd drug.

GratefulFloyd · 06-08-2010, 21:08

Smoking DMT is not nauseating, go with that, otherwise mushrooms sometimes induce nausea, but it usually goes away.

Splitz · 06-08-2010, 21:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by slush puppie

My friend wants to go away for a couple of days for his birthday, so I was thinking we could go to Stonehenge and trip together for the first time (his first trip ever). He has quite a phobia of vomiting though. Hopefully weed and meclizine will counter this, however he doesn't like taking pills either so it may be that he chooses not to take the meclizine.

Would really like us to take a naturally occuring psychedelic rather than LSD or a 2C, given the setting and all. Liberty caps not an option, no stockpile. Hawaiian baby woodrose are usually pretty sickening for me, no matter what I do with them (soaking, peeling, burning etc), also I don't rate the trip that much. I am yet to try mesc in any of its forms, would love to hear your nausea-related experiences on this, and anything else you can think of.

As always, your opinions would be greatly appreciated!

Weed should counter nausea with psychs, not everyone feels a substantial nausea anyway, it depends.

But what I really wanted to say was... go to Avebury instead of Stonehenge! It's much better! Summer solstice there was sick. All sniffer dogs at the henge (and you can't get upto the stones except on occasion, am I right or wrong?)

I'm biased though, Avebury is closer to me. :P

GratefulFloyd · 06-08-2010, 21:32

Weed can reduce nausea greatly, but it can make the experience way more intense and even a little confusing.

azgaza · 06-08-2010, 21:41

If you simply want a psychedelic that will not cause nausea I'd still advise LSD. It may not be natural but its probably one of the most comfortable psychedelics on your body. If you really want to stick with the natural I'd say shrooms. I only got very mild nausea from shrooms about half of the time and never anything bad. Most of my friends also got just very mild nausea the first half hour, some get it worse from shrooms though but it all depends on the person.

I'd say LSD is still the best choise though; it might not be natural, but it ignores the 5ht3 receptors completely, meaning the actual drug will not make you sick at all, which is lovely. Well chewed shrooms washed away with peppermint tea always work fine on me too. Menthol calms the stomach, and since you people want to take it natural for some reason that might be some advice to stick with.

Solipsis · 06-08-2010, 23:08

Well LSD is not at all found in nature so that doesnt seem to answer the question of the thread. But psiloc(yb)in and mescaline are. I had very brief nausea with synthetic mescaline but it is a superior compound. Cactus however seems to often cause extensive nausea and vomiting. Mushroom tissue is also not easily digested and tends to cause nausea, vomiting and stuff like burping.

I think cannabis is a great answer to your question, consider oral ingestion of that and its definitely a psychedelic. For non-regular users I would also definitely say smoking it is a psychedelic experience.

I'm sorry, if you are talking as-is ingestion most natural products are not great to avoid nausea.

Splitz · 07-08-2010, 11:40

It really doesn't make a difference really if a chemical can be found in nature or not...

but when it came to mushrooms, I didn't really get any nausea. Slight 'funny tummy' but I would not describe it as a nauseous feeling.

Wise420 · 07-08-2010, 12:26

I find mushrooms put into a tea greatly reduce feelings of nausea. Also as others have said, smoking some weed on the come up (on most drugs) will ease the ride into the trip.

mecaib · 07-08-2010, 20:21

I've never experienced any nausea on shrooms, but others have... Cacti can make you vomit, but I never did (it was a close call though). I heard that mesc all by itself is an emetic, so I'd beware of that. I'm not sure smoking DMT would be an option where you're going. You could chew salvia, but that's not really one to use in public. What does that leave? You can eat large amounts of cannabis, which would be more hallucinogenic than smoking it. Lots of colors and CEVs from that one, though a bit more confusing than other psychs.

But really, if you consider that Stonehenge was built by humans, and is not a naturally-occurring phenomenon, why not just drop some acid?

PriestTheyCalledHim · 08-08-2010, 16:41

Take psychedelic mushrooms! Can you get other ones besides Liberty caps?

You won't get nauseous if you fast or don't eat for at least 2 hours before you take them.

Don't put them into a food but just eat them plain as they taste good IME.

I've found that drinking ginger in hot water can help with nausea but that worked when I accidentally ate too much herb and got horrible stomach cramps.

If you can't find mushrooms just take some very high dose LSD. You won't get sick from that.

I've been to Stonehenge and yeah there are lots of tourists.

shiv · 09-08-2010, 01:12

DMT can make the user feel nausea or a stomach ache type feeling. But nothing unbearable.

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Originally Posted by GratefulFloyd

Smoking DMT is not nauseating, go with that, otherwise mushrooms sometimes induce nausea, but it usually goes away.

GratefulFloyd · 10-08-2010, 23:39

I've never felt any nausea while smoking DMT or stomach discomfort, it usually disconnects you from your body enough to where you would not even know that you have a stomach. Erowid says nothing about smoked DMT inducing nausea, but it does say slight stomach discomfort is possible. Only time I ever feel discomfort is when I eat too soon going in to a DMT trip.

zamzams · 11-08-2010, 00:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by slush puppie

My friend wants to go away for a couple of days for his birthday, so I was thinking we could go to Stonehenge and trip together for the first time (his first trip ever). He has quite a phobia of vomiting though. Hopefully weed and meclizine will counter this, however he doesn't like taking pills either so it may be that he chooses not to take the meclizine.

Would really like us to take a naturally occuring psychedelic rather than LSD or a 2C, given the setting and all. Liberty caps not an option, no stockpile. Hawaiian baby woodrose are usually pretty sickening for me, no matter what I do with them (soaking, peeling, burning etc), also I don't rate the trip that much. I am yet to try mesc in any of its forms, would love to hear your nausea-related experiences on this, and anything else you can think of.

As always, your opinions would be greatly appreciated!

Well it's nearly that time of year already (copious amounts of rain required first though) for mushy season to start early. I'd go mushy picking if the conditions are right but just don't eat em raw, dry them out on the lowest non-fan assisted oven setting with the door wide open in known quantity batches (i.e. 25) You don't actually need that many depending on their size/strength.

mescaline is the worst of them all for causing vomathons. Will never forget my mate boiling 100grams of san pedro for 8 hours to get a dose of mescal. then watching him chew on the gelatenous green snot and then spend 4 hours barfing without getting any psychedelic effects whatsoever. hahaha fun times