Re: OTC codeine in Europe area?

drfeelgood1 · 03-11-2005, 01:49

My friend is moving back to Eastern Europe and he's wondering if he can OTC drugs containing Codeine?? He says it doesnt matter if its only 8 to 10mg...

Is there somewhere such a thing as Nurofen or Robo AC in Europe?

clip' · 03-11-2005, 04:41

try posting this in european drug discussion, u will most likely get more replies there as its the regional forum.

jasoncrest · 03-11-2005, 05:35

I can only tell you what you can find in France:

THE BEST DEAL:
for 2,5 euros (= 3 dollars), you can buy OTC a box of Tussipax, which contains:
15 x (10mg Codeine + 10mg Ethylmorphine).
They are the two only active substances.
That makes 150mg Codeine + 150mg Ethylmorphine if you eat the whole box.

There are so much OTC meds with Codeine ONLY...
a box of Paderyl for instance contains 20 x 15mg Codeine, the same for Neo-Codion, Dinacode and many more...

-->That's the products containing Codeine only OTC found in France.
And I think France is one of the country which has the less abusable OTC meds in Europe.
So depending on where exactly you want to go, you'll find more products containing Codeine, some countries have OTC Dihydrocodeine, OTC Soma (carisoprodol)

DexterMeth · 03-11-2005, 06:46

"10mg Codeine + 10mg Ethylmorphine" fuck that sounds nice.

SheeshKeebab · 03-11-2005, 07:24

UK variations are:

OTC Generics 5/500 APAP (Co-codamol) Cost GBP1.50 32 pack
There are so many to list but some pharmacies now put these behind the counter and will sell one box only.

12.8/NNN Depends of Brand such as Sopodeine Max (Contain APAP I think) Cost 1.70 24 pack.
Nurofen Plus 12.8/300 Ibuprufen. These are always behind the counter. Cost GBP5-6 so very expensive. Pack 24

Max strength are ALWAYS behind the counter.

CWE on generics 8/500 works well but would be ideal if 8/300 were used as the a huge sludge of APAP is left over.

drfeelgood1 · 03-11-2005, 16:10

I know in UK they have OTC morphine...But I dont know whether thats true or not...

But hes moving to the Eastern Europe area and France is quite a ways to drive out for Codiene...What about like near the Hungarian/Austrian area or region??? Which he can drive about 150 miles away at least??

Hungary has NO OTC meds at all...except for like Advil or the stuff we have here....Hungary is really strict on their narcotic drugs....even much so than here in the USA...

So...he needs to drive out somehwere in that area of that region at least....

Does Austtria or former Yugoslavia have OTC with codeine??

jasoncrest · 03-11-2005, 17:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by DexterMeth

"10mg Codeine + 10mg Ethylmorphine" fuck that sounds nice.

This is exactly the same thing as 20mg Codeine. Ethylmorphine has EXACTLY the same effect as Codeine, for EXACTLY the same dosage. (I just find it a bit more itchy)

caizar · 03-11-2005, 17:57

OTC morphine in the uk,Dont think so mate???

Zet · 04-11-2005, 02:17

I dont know about opiates but I was able to buy Diazepam, Alprazolam, and any other benzo in Serbia.

Suffice to say, I came out of this summer with a huge tolerance.

However, in Serbia you can get something called Caffetine which has 10 mg's of Codiene, 500 APAP, and 50 mg's of Caffeine.

BingeBoy · 06-11-2005, 18:41

um don't get tussipax (ethylcodeine is an itchier variant of codeine)

ask for neo-codion , 3,5 euro , for 300 mg of codeine (its hemihydrate i think but 300 in base)

you will find the streets in certain places almost paved with empty boxes

oh this is for the whole of france

in belgium you can get like 200 mg for 4 euro's (ethylcodeine)

p.s the opinions on ethylcodeine aren't always the same i think it's inferior to normal codeine.

Immortal · 06-11-2005, 20:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by drfeelgood1

My friend is moving back to Eastern Europe and he's wondering if he can OTC drugs containing Codeine?? He says it doesnt matter if its only 8 to 10mg...

Is there somewhere such a thing as Nurofen or Robo AC in Europe?

I live in Serbia and...

Yeah, drugs like Tylenol 3 in US/Canada can be found here. It's called Caffetine, and it contains caffeine, paracetamol and 10mg of codeine.

Also Tramadol isn't OTC, but it's available, just ask and try not to look suspicious ;-) Also you can find ephedrine and pseudoephedrine OTC. Diazepam, Bromozepam and aprolzam are being prescribed often.

Deathrow558 · 06-11-2005, 21:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by drfeelgood1

I know in UK they have OTC morphine...But I dont know whether thats true or not...

LoL, contradicting yourself a bit there aren't you?

jasoncrest · 06-11-2005, 21:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by BingeBoy

you will find the streets in certain places almost paved with empty boxes

oh this is for the whole of france

Yeah that's so true! I'm also in france, and in some place you see neo-codion boxes everywhere on the streets...
Ten years ago it was a good source of codeine, but now they've added another active substance in it, and I think Paderyl is better if you want codeine only, tussipax if you want ethylmorphine+codeine...

Quote:

Originally Posted by BingeBoy

p.s the opinions on ethylcodeine aren't always the same i think it's inferior to normal codeine.

It is called "ethylmorphine" or "codethylline", but are you sure it can be called "ethylcodeine". (I talk about the stuff in Tussibax, and in Codethylline Houdé in belgium)?
I find it as strong, and as recreational as Codeine, but a bit itchier..

Skyline_GTR · 06-11-2005, 21:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by caizar

OTC morphine in the uk,Dont think so mate???

Surprisingly one can get morphine OTC in the UK - it's called J Collis Browne's Mixture and contains 1mg morphine anhydrous per 5ml...

caizar · 06-11-2005, 23:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skyline_GTR

Surprisingly one can get morphine OTC in the UK - it's called J Collis Browne's Mixture and contains 1mg morphine anhydrous per 5ml...

Is this available at most chemist's and how much do i have to take to get that opiate high?

BingeBoy · 07-11-2005, 00:51

^
try to look respectable

oh and jcrest your right it's ethylmorphine , codeine is methylmorphine i think.
are you french or just in france? either way hope you don't own a car :P

and the only stuff they added to neo-codion is guafenesin or soemthing like that , i used to eat 2 boxes a day for a long time and no health problems.

the worst experience i had with otc codeine was in belgium , i bought something with tons of campher in it.

the next day i had mentol burps , really fresh , but my gf didn't like it .

Deathrow558 · 07-11-2005, 01:49

That gaufenisen shit gives you the shits like hell!

jasoncrest · 07-11-2005, 01:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by BingeBoy

oh and jcrest your right it's ethylmorphine , codeine is methylmorphine i think.
are you french or just in france? either way hope you don't own a car :P

Yeah it's the War here! Now the guerilla is in the whole country!
(and I'm french, and in France)

And on the topic: yeah Codeine is Methylmorphine.
I think 10% of both Methylmorphine and Ethylmorphine are converted to Morphine in the body... (methyl group removed for Codeine, and ethyl for ethylmorphine)

BingeBoy · 07-11-2005, 17:36

ey crest where can the otc soma be found?

oh and i'm french too luckily i live in the netherlands.

hmm never noticed something bad from the guafenesin but that's probably cause codeine is constipating.

BingeBoy · 07-11-2005, 21:25

i think that's a bit like baclofen , got it once from someone but went straight into the bin because it didn't seem recreational.

can i add that france is fucking benzo country , i just love going into bathrooms there all these wonderfull suprises.

the drug culture there is a lot like in the u.s lots of pharmies.

here in holland only the hardcore junkies bother with meds , makes sense , who needs meds when you can get cheap heroin.

Skyline_GTR · 08-11-2005, 00:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by caizar

Is this available at most chemist's and how much do i have to take to get that opiate high?

I don't know of it's availability at high street chemists as I've never tried to buy it, but some online chemists sell it. It comes in 100ml bottles, so each one contains 20mg morphine anhydrous (which I think is the equivalent of about 26mg morphine sulfate). I'm not sure what dose is recomended for a first time (do a search here or check erowid), it obviously depends on your opiate tolerance - but always start low if in doubt.

jasoncrest · 08-11-2005, 19:22

OTC SOMA in Europe:
->"Mio-Relax" in Spain

And I tried Mephenesin too (the stuff in Decontractyl), it makes a slight relaxing effect the first time you take it (1000mg or more), then it's impossible to get an effect from it...

jasoncrest · 09-11-2005, 03:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fuzati

For the Mephenesin, maybe i'm not normal but i still can get the relaxing effets from them, if i don't take them too often. The strange thing with these pills are that they are very random with me. One night i can get very nice effects from them, almost the same that the Somas give me, and sometimes i don't feel anything at all. Weird... =/

Maybe I should try it again. I did it only a few times, and seeing it wasn't working anymore, I gave up. Maybe it's also because I take Valium daily, which is a strong muscle relaxant, and maybe covers the effect of mephenesin...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fuzati

Oh, and another good OTC medicin in France... DXM

I haven't try it yet, but i will very soon (maybe this week end).

The best brand of DXM pills if you don't want to get sick (in fact the only form of DXM that do not get me sick) is 'Ergix Toux Sèche' en gélules.
There are 20 gelcaps cantaining 20mg DXM each. That makes 400mg/box, a bit too much for a first time...
All the other DXM pills and syrup gets you sick (Codotussyl, etc...)
Ergix Toux Seche can also make you sick, but it does not happen as often as with other meds...

I'm surprised this thread hasn't been moved to European Drug Discussion yet... But it's better here, it gets more answers...

BingeBoy · 09-11-2005, 13:27

^
yes ed is owned by the brits , they should rename it i think. --> Bdd

jasoncrest · 09-11-2005, 21:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fuzati

Yes, i think you should try it again, for one good reason

: The guy who told me about the decontractyl as the same adictions as you (Valium in large quantities and he IV Subutex daily), and when he need a little relaxation he takes some mephenesin (Cuz he can't get some effects anymore from benzos)
and it works with him, so why not with you?

And he also told me not to take it too often, or you won't feel anything from them. But it's so nice to take it with some codéine sometimes..

And you should take more than 1000mg. Me, i take around 2000 to get some nice effects. Oh, and you cant' take more than 6000mg in 24 hours.

All that is really interesting. I'll buy a box tomorrow. If a guy using Sub and Valium told you it works (even if I can only take it once in a while), then I think it works.
Now I'm interested by Mephenesin again... Why does nobody have information on it? I made a thread on it on Other Drugs a long time ago (maybe it was not under the name jasoncrest), but I did not get any reply...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fuzati

Ok, i already read on a french forum about drugs that the best brand of DXM is the "Ergix toux sèche", thanks for the confirmation.

Do you have any idea of the price of a box?

It's one of the best, but maybe the more expansive DXM containing pills... 5 euros I think (not REALLY expansive).

Can you tell me the address of the forum you talk about? (maybe on private messages box)
[I have a reason to think I know the guy you talk about, I maybe even know him well, eventhough I think it's not one of my friends]