Healthy Living>Personal experiences w/Seroquel+"Wellbutrin" (Bupropion) and recreational drugs
SnowWhite 19:03 27-10-2002
My Dr. recently, about 5 days ago, prescribed me wellbutrin and seroquel. I take 150mg of wellbutrin during the day and half of a 25mg pill of seroquel at night. I was on paxil before but it made me feel like shit. I was wondering if anyone had any experiences with these drugs and any recreational drugs. If so what was it?/what was your dosage,how much do you weigh, effects,etc. I was planing to party this weekend and wanted to know how other peoples personal experiences were. Oh by the way I'm 5'8/136lbs/F.
Thanks kids! peace/love,
*Caroline*
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Love In Vein 19:16 27-10-2002
Neither of them are recreational.
Wellbutrin is an anti-depressant. It's an EXTREMELY BAD idea to mess around with anti-depressants trying to get high. Not only will you NOT get high, but lord knows what you'll end up doing to your brain. Also, you can end up killing yourself that way.
As for Seroquel, it is NOT recreational. At all. It makes you tired without getting you high.
However Seroquel has it's uses. It's excellent to take for coming down after taking stimulants. Just take between 75-100mgs and lay down and you should easily fall asleep. The only time it should not knock you out is if you're going through severe opiate withdrawals. Don't ever take more than 100mgs. Also, if you're going to be using cocaine or methamphetamine, take 25mgs and you'll take the paranoid edge off without getting drowsy or interfering with the high.
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SnowWhite 19:24 27-10-2002
Yes, I know that know of them serve recreational proposes, I just wanted to hear some people's comments who have done recreational drugs while being on these medications. I'm not a newbie to the world of drugs I am well aware of things that are and aren't ok to do while on these medications, thankx for you concern though!
Peace/Love,
Caroline
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Moved to med q&a .. 'err, "Health" I mean..
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fairnymph 08:25 28-10-2002
I wrote a FAQ on Antideppressants and Recreational Drugs that is in the Drug FAQ forum. That should cover all of your wellbutrin concerns.
As for seroquel, I do not know much about its interaction with recreational drugs, although since it acts on serotonin it is likely to interact with MDMA and LSD -- possibly bad, and almost certainly reducing the effects of the drugs.
Please be careful if you decide to combine seroquel and recreational drugs. If possible, skip your seroquel for a few days before and after getting high.
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superbabydoc 12:34 28-10-2002
Seroquel blocks the effect of serotonin at the 5HT2 receptor, and the effects of dopamine at the D2 receptor as well as others. This may result in a reduction of the effects of MD** drugs, other amphetamines and possibly LSD. I imagine though that the small dose you are taking may not have much of an effect on these substances.
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JungleprincesssJ 19:35 04-11-2002
I have been on Seroquel(100MG at 5PM and 200MG at bedtime/along with topamax 6tabs x 25 MGS) for about 5-6 weeks now, also I take percocets and hydros and sometimes oxys for pain cause I have been in 2 auto accidents in the past 6 months(not my fault hehe). Anyways I have been taking these painkillers and been getting the "fuked up" feeling until I started taking seroquel, now i get a some pain relief, but lil to no recreation use from the pain killers. Also I tried some K, which is rare from me, had my hubby down n out, but it didnt effect me at all.
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rewindselekta 14:43 30-11-2002
i take 200mg of Welbutrin sr and 200mg of Saroquel daily. I was in a rehab recently and a girl died of respitory (or however the fuck you spell it) failure when she went out and got drunk to celabrate being graduated from the program. she was taking the exact things i am and they still arnt 100% sure what EXACTLY killed her but there is a reason why they say dont drink while on that shit. if i know im gunnaget faded when i go out, i tend to skip the saroquel. for everything else, meth and coke were fine. acid and shrooms worked fine as well. but ive only taken e once while ive been on these meds and i just didnt feel the same, but who knows i was on a lot of other stuff.
good luck and be careful =)
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QuinntheEskimo 02:28 20-01-2008
150 mgs bupropion and 300 sero`s daily, also sneak at least 3 mgs xanax. smoke weed when i can but my drinking night end up with me in strange situations and should be avoided.. good luck
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bingalpaws 18:16 24-01-2008
sorry I can't recall dosages on the seroquel, but it stops mushrooms, acid, and ecstasy very well ime. Used to use it very regularly to stop candyflips (acid/mdma), I'd take it right when I was home and wanted the drugs to stop, I'd be passed out like 15 minutes later and get half decent sleep. Much preferred to benzos for this usage imo.
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Nitrous is Nice 16:04 25-01-2008
A couple years ago, I started off on Paxil and then switched to Wellbutrin as well. I started with 1 Wellbutrin XL 150mg per day (which is what I assume you're taking as well). My doctor wanted to bump me up to 300mg XL within a week. Well, the second day of taking the higher dosage of Wellbutrin, I felt extremely good for a little while but then started getting very lightheaded and strange mental effects. It seemed like I was a bit disconnected from reality.
That only happened once, and then I switched to Wellbutrin SR (which you take twice a day). I think I was just still pretty sensitive to the new effects the Wellbutrin were having on my brain when the 300mg XL gave me those weird symptoms.
Since you've just started out, and seem to be going the same route I did (w/ the addition of Seroquel.... I was prescribed Clonazepam... but that's beside the point) I would advise you to take it very slowly and easy if you do plan on doing any recreational drugs this early on in your Wellbutrin treatment. I would definitely not take extacy, coke, or any other stimulants until more time has passed and you're more familiar with how the Wellbutrin affects you. Drinking will probably be more fun for you if you decide to do that, but I'd also just be careful and be conscious of any adverse reactions you might start feeling if you do indulge in any recreational activities.
Hope this was helpful for you. Have fun and be safe.
:-)
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Originally Posted by fairnymph:
I wrote a FAQ on Antideppressants and Recreational Drugs that is in the Drug FAQ forum. That should cover all of your wellbutrin concerns.
As for seroquel, I do not know much about its interaction with recreational drugs, although since it acts on serotonin it is likely to interact with MDMA and LSD -- possibly bad, and almost certainly reducing the effects of the drugs.
Please be careful if you decide to combine seroquel and recreational drugs. If possible, skip your seroquel for a few days before and after getting high.
Seroquel is an anti-psychotic. It blocks most monoamines. Its similar to risperdal or thorrzine (althought not as much as thorzine). Some people find it recreational, especially those in prison who will pay high prices for it. It is a high sedative next to its anti psychotic properties. And as to the question how will it interact with most other drugs, well , it wlil usually stop most drugs right in their tracks. It blocks most of the receptors that are psychoactive. However, seroquel is a dangerous medicine as in it causes diabetes. Also it is addictive, and very expensive. Whoever said not to go over 100 is not correct. Ive been in rehab with people taking as little as 25 and as high as a gram (1000 mg). 1000 mg is the maximum allowed doseage. If I were you, I would get off the seroquel, but half a 25 wont harm you at all and most likely will help yoou sleep.
Wellbutrin, I was wondering about that myself. I have wellbutrin and wellbutrin sr, and have never taken any. Most anti depressants are ssri's (selective seratonin reuptake inhibitors), while Wellbutrin works on other receptors such as nor adrenaline and dopeamine. Its primarily a dopeamine reuptake inhibitor.
It works similarly to ritalin but not as powerful. I would guess to get a recreational dose, you would be in high danger. For wellbutrin lowers the seizure threshold significantly. If you wanna get high go for benzos, sedatives, psychoactive plants, and psychedelics. I hate anti - depressants, they dont know how they work yet (scientisits just guesstimate) and I am fearful to take them. I have tried several - remeron (mirtzapine) which i kind of liked because it helped me with my lucid dreaming - zoloft )sertraline ((I actually havent tried it yet because I dont know what it will do to me but I have an awful lot of it)), and trazadone which is more like a tricyclic antidepressant used for sleep, your liver metabolizes it into the piperazine mCPP. Google mCPP and you will find some recreational value to it.
If you want sleep, and cant get good drugs from your doctors, I always recommend diphenhydramine. Its a very comfortable over the counter drug. 50 mgs, lay in bed, and you start drifting to sleep in an opiate type manor. Also in higher doses you can hallucinate (mainly become delirius). I suggest reasing on that on erowid . org before doing it.
Good luck bud.
PS- If your doc prescribes it, for depression, i recommend you take it as prescribed. I had terrrible depression once and I took it for two days and my depression was gone. At least give it a try, dont worry about getting high. Being depressed is horrible and getting out of that black cloud will be a high in its own.
:-)
sp0r
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assembled 23:25 17-10-2008
Wellbutrin is a terrible drug for me. It left me feeling fried all the time. I would never attempt a recreational dose, or even eat that
terrible stuff again.
Seroquel is kind of fun, I have hallucinated a lot on it before. I have also almost fallen down stairs, fallen asleep standing up, and fallen asleep for 20 hours on it. Keep in mind this was not a recreational dose.
I always get a bad hangover from seroquel, and it makes me fall asleep, but not necessarily get any good quality sleep, so I can't recommend this one either.
One pill of seroquel was enough to knock me the fuck out, and I don't want to know what a recreational dose would do. Probably something along the lines of sleep and more sleep. Yay
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bingalpaws 03:25 18-10-2008
Originally Posted by assembled:
One pill of seroquel was enough to knock me the fuck out, and I don't want to know what a recreational dose would do. Probably something along the lines of sleep and more sleep. Yay :-)
you're right, sleep and more sleep - no recreational usage of seroquel, just useful for stopping other recreationals
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GETYAGUN!!11 22:09 20-10-2008
ew i when i was in a rehab (for fucking weed) they gave me seroquel cause i couldn't sleep, but they KEPT giving it to me. After like 10-14 days of doing 100 mg at night i developed a SEVERE cold/flu (hadn't been sick in years, still havent since then despite heavy opiate/mdma use)....fuck seroquel
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gem1n167 15:48 22-10-2008
they don't have a recreational use, i was on them before they figured out i was adhd and not bipolar. I would get weird feelings while smoking herb, like i was about to have a seizure or something....it wasn't cool,
so be careful what you do with that stuff......
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I have a feeling that there is some kind of conspiracy behind seroquel. Doctors over prescribe it, especially at unusually high doses (up to a gram). I have a feeling the dr's are getting paid to prescribe it. And I see it prescribed most often in institutions like rehab. The only time I like seroquel is when I am in rehab and cant get benzos or anything else. Id take vistaril over seroquel. Another conspiracy thought of mine is that since it is still in a newer stage compared to most meds, Dr's are prescribing it like candy to junkies and vagrants in rehabs and halfway houses to study its effects. Using people as guinea pigs. If you ever are told you have to take seroquel, you have a right to say "I dont have to take anything and I dont want any seroquel." The couple times I took it, I got extremely potent migraines and got very hungry. Im not partial to anti psychotics. Compazine is probably the only one. Good luck!
sp0r :-)
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hm my dude offered me some seroquel tonight. i just figured it made you pass out like all other anti-psychotics i've tried..then you wake up feeling like someone ran you over with a bus. zyprexa is one that made me hallucinate pretty badly. not in a
oh woww dude i'm tripping! hahah kind of way but like wondering
have i lost my mind? kind of way.
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mdmantpa 06:19 19-03-2009
I used to be on Welbutrin, and what I did was very dangerous, looking back I probably should've had a seizure. Anyways I would crush up 150mg of buproprion and 10mg of methylphenidate(ritalin) and snort them together. Burned like hell but felt like coke for some reason. Idk why or how, I just no it worked. Anyways while on Welbutrin I used opiates, benzos, weed, coke, and psychedelics w/o problem but that doesn't mean its safe.
Best bet is probably not to fuck around too much with Welbutrin, but Seroquel is quite lovely for coke/meth comedowns.
:-)
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treezy z 16:46 27-03-2009
i'm on both of these meds.
my experience: psychedelics are useless on seroquel (although i've only tried once and then didn't bother again, but that's what should have happened if you look at what seroquel does to the brain.)
dxm and wellbutrin is shit, you'll overheat and get spasms.
ritalin and adderall are far less euphoric on these meds.
gaba drugs are fine, but be careful, you'll get the shakes much easier if you overdo it (wellbutrin lowers seizure threshhold).
opiates, kratom, etc work fine.
salvia works normally.
marijuana works fine, maybe a little more paranoia though.
i'll edit more in if i can think of anything else.
edit: since writing this post i have found i can trip on seroquel (did lsa a bunch of times) although the effects are lowered.
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hey , i've been on seroquel (25 mg in morning and 25 at night) for about 6 or 7 weeeks since i was in rehab to treat drug enduced psychosis and bi-polar .
i think snow white was asking about the effects of OTHER recreational drugs mixed with seroquel and wellbutrin , as opposed to the effects of seroquel and wellbutrin AS recreational drugs .
i am also curious as to what the effects of MDMA or any MD** would be if i were to continue my seroquel dosage without skipping anything out .
i dont know much about meds mixed with recreational drugs except that my friend on a 100mg dosage of effexor xr toook eccies with us one night and "smacked out" almost instantly , vommiting , overheating and what not , whereas the rest of us enjoyed ourselves as per usual . although she was small and had serotonin syndrom and was on a different medication and dosage to me this has made me nervous to roll while being medicated .
i do not want to skip out any of my seroquel as my anxiety goes through the roof when i do , so does anyone know what the worst/best that could happen out of rolling (MDMA caps or rollers) or tripping (microdots or tabs) or tweaking (base or meth) whilst on seroquel ? and if the effects are just dulled , would it help to take more ? or would that make you sick before it makes you fucked ?
i have read every reply but am still unsure as my comprehension skills are relatively pooor , sorry .
thanks for the info about psychedelics on sero treezy z ! but do know much about eccies , amphetamine or methamphetamine on seroquel ?
also , i do not think any kind of medications or recreational drugs "suck , period" as the effects and pros/cons varey from person to person . so i do not think a bias response like that is particularly helpful .
sorry if this was an inappropriate post , this is my first .
very good question snowwhite ! thank you !
- thanks guys , zipppaas
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frankieg 19:41 30-10-2009
i take 300mg of seroquel at night for PTSD. i find it stuffs me up and i have a hard time breathing for a bit. so much so that i had to get out of bed and sit upright until it passed. i have taken it with methadone and had some trippy effects. including being spaced out and "waking up" in the middle of the room not knowing how long i was there or why. i don't get hang overs but i am retired from the military so i can sleep all i want. so that may be why. as for cost i have no idea because i get it from the VA. i was shot in iraq and they were giving me tramadol and switched it to methadone...which i hate. i am going to try and get back on dilaudid even if it is only 4mg 4x a day. that way i can shoot it. the methadone i can eat 300mg or more and it really does nothing to me. what a shame that is. it may be the seroquel or the effexor i am taking, i have no idea anyhow. i do know one thing my cocaine cravings are making me mad and the vivid seroquel dreams i have are all about shooting cocaine. i live in tampa but don't know anyone otherwise it would be VERY easy and cheap to get coke. up north in maine you pay 100 a g for crap coke, sometimes 80bucks but mixed with who knows what. anyhoo i just took 900mg of seroquel so i am going for a trip right now
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