200 Mg MS contin and 30 Mg Oxycodone

CharlesThe1337 · 14-02-2009, 21:33

Hi there, this is my first post and I would first like to thank all of you for letting my join your community. I am posting because lately I have been getting into pharms, and recently came across 5 30 mg Oxycodones and today should be getting 50 200 Morphine pills. These are the turqoise ones with the M inside a box and 200 imprinted on it (I think made my Mallitradt or something like that). I was seeing what the best way to ingest these would be, and how much of each. To give a gauge, I can take like andwhere between 25 and 40 mg of Hydrocodone and smoke like alot of weed and feel great. I really appreciate it guys, thanks.

v4lium · 14-02-2009, 22:31

FOr the oxy id eat half and snort the other half of your dose

for morph, as ive said in previous threads, only way to use morph is plug or put it in your vein.

CharlesThe1337 · 14-02-2009, 23:18

Well, I got anxious and already snorted most of the oxy ha! I feel pretty good, and I think it actually made me better at Call of Duty which was pretty cool. How much of the morphine would you suggest as a good dose? And the reason I was not sure about how to ingest it was because one of my friends told me when I had the 15 that its like a "junky proof" thing and if it gets wet it gels up and doesn't work or something. Is that true? or whats the deal with that?

v4lium · 14-02-2009, 23:28

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Originally Posted by CharlesThe1337

Well, I got anxious and already snorted most of the oxy ha! I feel pretty good, and I think it actually made me better at Call of Duty which was pretty cool. How much of the morphine would you suggest as a good dose? And the reason I was not sure about how to ingest it was because one of my friends told me when I had the 15 that its like a "junky proof" thing and if it gets wet it gels up and doesn't work or something. Is that true? or whats the deal with that?

The morph dose would depend how much oxy it takes to get you high..

And as far as the gel thing goes, I've heard of these though never actually seen them, I think they only use that anti-abuse method in the usa. Anyway, if it did gel up, it wouldnt really be a big deal if youre plugging it, maybe it might be harder to draw up in a syringe, though you could just keep adding water too it until its liquidy enough to draw up into the syringe.

also you'd need a 10ml syringe, the bigger ones, needless of course.

MCMG · 14-02-2009, 23:34

Honestly with that tolerance IV 10-15 MG is more then enough, but with so much in a pill thats going to be really hard to break up 10 mg I suggest you skip out on the IV for now and just snort, eat, plug, parachute because really its just to much of a risk with shit like that.

CharlesThe1337 · 14-02-2009, 23:46

I have never IV'd anything, but I don't really plan on doing it. I just don't think its my bag. As for the pills, they don't say E or anything on them. From what my buddy said over the phone they look similar to the 15s I have. They have an M inside a box, they are green/turqoise, and kind of long and skinny (I guess kinda like a quad) but he just called me so I'm gonna go pick them up. I'll post back once I get home. Thanks for the help guys.

leftwing · 14-02-2009, 23:53

200mg morphine tablets are going to make it a little tricky to split up for dosing. i would suggest dividing the pills best as possible into ~20mg piles and would either try parachuting a 20mg pile at a time or plugging it. just work your way up slowly.

parachuting and plugging have the better BA over snorting, but less than IV.

CharlesThe1337 · 15-02-2009, 01:42

Sorry, but I'm still rather inexperienced with these things. Before this I was just a pothead. What is BA? I'm assuming you are talking about the amout that is absorbed. I looked on drugs.com to identify this, and it seems that the IR and ER look the same, although it could just be a mistake on their part. Is snooting this just a really bad idea? or just not as efficient? I was thinking about just breaking it up and dabbing my pinky in it and licking it then chasing it a few times

leftwing · 15-02-2009, 01:51

BA = bio-availabilty. the estimated amount of drug that will be absorbed by that rout of adminstration (ROA)

if the ER tablets are crushed finely, the time release is somewhat defeated, making it somewhat instant release.

by snooting do you mean snorting? or shooting? shooting is the most effective way, but i wouldn't advise you to opt that way if you're not familiar with IVing pills.

instead of dabbing your pinky in, just put a small amount crushed up, say 20-30mg in a tally ho and swallow it, or wash it down with a glass of water.

there is also some good information in the Other Drugs Directory in relation to potentiating the opiate with things such as anti-histamines and GFJ etc etc. that very well may be an interest to yourself.

mmmCHRISx · 15-02-2009, 04:36

Just cut up the morphine pills into like 8-10 pieces. Crush up a piece scrape it all into a little shot glass, and add some water/drink and drink it!

Snorting will work, but with any mallis, tthe gel really does suck, as when i snort malli oxy, my nose is clogged for like 2+ days.

To warn you, if you say you are getting 50 200mg morphine pills, the end of that road could be a potentially shitty one.

with easily over 350 recreational doses, you could be in trouble of addiction.

djsim · 15-02-2009, 10:03

Guys, just because morphine is more economical (a very relative term) done IV, in no way should we promote OP IVing morphine because otherwise he'd be wasting too much morphine. IV may be fine for you, but dont rationalise using a needle to someone who has never even tried morphine and has a pretty low tolerance.

Sure, you get more out of morphine if you IV it. And then morphine and the needle may eventually take it all back, and then some. If you want to get higher, use more orally (safely of course, start low and go up slowly). Starting using the needle has never been something anyone ever looks back on fondly... the same faulty logic gets them into it as almost all the other IV addicts: its cheaper and the high is better.

You sure you want to start getting highs that you wont get out of life itself? Stick to oral administration and you'll be forever grateful

CharlesThe1337 · 15-02-2009, 20:32

Yes, thank you djsim. That is why I don't want to IV my morphine lol. So yeah I picked them up yesterday. They look as he described to me, I gave one to my friend who was having horrible back pains (shes got scoliosis) and she said a quarter made her feel a hundred times better. Yeah, thanks chris I was planning on breaking it down into alot of different little chunks. And don't worry, not all 50 are for me, I kept like 15 for myself and my friend is working on trying to get the money to pay me back for his portion. So just to get this straight, if a person like me took one of these whole they would likely OD or not be a happy camper yeah? I may eat like a quarter or third before class tomorrow to test it out

phatass · 15-02-2009, 20:45

Plugging is better than eating for morphine, it has a higher bio-avvailablity.... and with a low/no tolerance try 50mg of morphine (oral or plugged), wait 2 hours, and redose if/as needed... and most of all

ENJOY

but do watch out for addiction...

CharlesThe1337 · 15-02-2009, 23:16

Oh yeah, I do realize the addictive potential on these things. I've even caught myself looking foward to just Hydrocodone a little too much lately! And I'm sorry for being such a noob about this, but I'm pretty sure these are time released. That being said, by breaking it up does it mess up the extended release coating on the pill? or is there some sort of chemical mixed in with it that does that? In other words, should I break the pill up into fourths should I expect for it to hit me harder and shorter? Or longer and slower? and if I go the snorting route, I would obviosly pick off the green coating, but is there any other prepping that I should do? I'm pretty sure I'm gonna hold off on the IV'ing and the plugging for now. Plugging just seems sort of like an ordeal

phatass · 15-02-2009, 23:29

don't snort morphine the bio-availability of intranasal morphine is about 10%... waste of 90%

CharlesThe1337 · 15-02-2009, 23:35

Oh wow, I thought when yall were saying that it wouldn't hit me as hard I thought it was just like a fraction of it. But 90% is pretty hefty. Well, I guess I'm gonna be eating it tomorrow!

lenses · 16-02-2009, 00:27

They are

those right?

I would DEFINATELY recommend plugging them, IMO thats the only way to go besides IV'ing them. Oral use is a joke, morphine has extremely high first pass metabolism, which means the majority (around 80%+) gets destroyed by your liver. When you plug them, it bypasses the metabolism.

Also, its an easy way to measure your dose, you crush the pills and add them to cold water; and using a baby medicine syringe with dosage units on the side, you just measure the amound of water (lets say 1000 mls) . Then adding 200mgs, you plug half of the dose (500 mls of water) which means you have injested 100 mgs of morphine , because thats half the amount.

Another cool thing about plugging the morphine is that it makes the withdrawls A LOT lessened or not even happening. For some reason, the dose seems to taper down day by day, to the point where a withdrawl isn't even felt. Also, you stay high for like 3 days. I was heavily addicted to morphine in this method, and it was definately the best opiate experience of my life.

Finally, you don't really have to worry about it jelling up that much, because with the amount of water you add, it pretty much negates it. Just make sure to use very cold water, and DON'T heat it or cook it, it just destroys the morphine and makes everything harder.

You're a lucky lucky guy. I would be shitting myself if I had access to that much high quality narcotics. PM me if you have any questions, or at least tell me how the experience goes.

-lenses

LawnChairSkank · 16-02-2009, 02:49

With that much morphine you should really order up some acetic anhydride and make some h.

mmmCHRISx · 16-02-2009, 03:27

Just cut it up into like 5ths or 6th, and just chew a piece up with your front teeth, and wash it down.

CharlesThe1337 · 16-02-2009, 03:47

Lenses, you are exactly right my friend. Those are the ones I got (thanks for doing that I was gonna take some pics of them and post them up myself). And on a side note, I would PM you but I guess since I'm new to the forum I can't PM anyone but mods but if you wanna PM me feel free man, I'd love to talk to you a bit more. lol, I guess I could make some H but first of all I have no clue how, and second even if I did have the desire to get all smacked out I know a guy that can make that happen! Chris, thanks for your input man I'm gonna do exactly what you suggested either tomorrow or the next day depending on what I gotta do. I generally don't do anything other than hydrocodone during the week because I get too lathargic once I get into other pills/painkillers. Oh yeah I don't remember if I posted back about the OC I had since most of the focus in this thread has been on the Morphine, but I snorted the whole 30 I had and played xbox and I had a very enjoyable time! Thanks again for all of you guy's input and patience with me, I'm really glad I found this online community!

v4lium · 16-02-2009, 05:04

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Originally Posted by LawnChairSkank

With that much morphine you should really order up some acetic anhydride and make some h.

lol....Funny guy

Mr Blonde · 16-02-2009, 05:09

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Originally Posted by lenses

I would DEFINATELY recommend plugging them, IMO thats the only way to go besides IV'ing them. Oral use is a joke, morphine has extremely high first pass metabolism, which means the majority (around 80%+) gets destroyed by your liver. When you plug them, it bypasses the metabolism.

As far as I was aware, morphine had a BA that was not that much higher then oral when plugging?

Regardless, basic dosing and usage questions belong in Basic Drug Discussion.

OD===>BDD

stiffcock · 16-02-2009, 05:26

Weed + Opies = Great

leftwing · 16-02-2009, 05:49

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Originally Posted by lenses

Also, its an easy way to measure your dose, you crush the pills and add them to cold water; and using a baby medicine syringe with dosage units on the side, you just measure the amound of water (lets say 1000 mls) . Then adding 200mgs, you plug half of the dose (500 mls of water) which means you have injested 100 mgs of morphine , because thats half the amount.

you raise a good point with diluting the morphine into a liquid solition but i think 500mL of water is waaaay too excessive for plugging, im not even sure if that much would be able to fit up there

i'm only a novice when it comes to plugging, so please someone correct me if i'm wrong.

something like 100mL would be more in the ballpark and a lot more practical.

CharlesThe1337 · 16-02-2009, 05:51

But I think that amount of water is in order to further dilute the gel that these pills will turn into to I don't get gel in mah bum. Thats from what I've gathered of course, I think I'm gonna try that as soon as I get more familiar with these things.