Nopaine HCL and/or freebase similar to cocaine?

**SyntheticInsanity** · 03-12-2010 08:28

I haven't even heard of this drug until today but apparently some dude came up with a new synthetic drug that produces effects similar to that of cocaine and/or the amphetamine class.

Here's the article: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...845267526.html

Has anyone ever heard of this? Any more information anyone has would be appreciated.

**sekio** · 03-12-2010 08:53

That guy was a scammer, and the drug's not new. It's one of the RTI series that's basically cocaine with a few things fiddled around to remove the problem with it being hit by esterases easily.

Illegal in the states cause cocaine is sched. 2.

**vecktor** · 03-12-2010 09:02

I thought the substance was ethylphenidate.

**sekio** · 03-12-2010 09:23

Shit, sorry. It was ethylphenidate indeed, i'm thinking of another shady vendor.

**vecktor** · 03-12-2010 10:26

Originally Posted by sekio

Shit, sorry. It was ethylphenidate indeed, i'm thinking of another shady vendor.

Both vendors are highly shady.

**(zonk)** · 03-12-2010 19:43

the vendor that has nopaine is a scam, i dont think he answers emails tho, glad he decided not to take advantage of the RC naive, might as well cancel his URL, his fake chemical nicknames weren't very creative either LOL, worse than "benzo fury"IMO.

**Enkidu** · 03-12-2010 23:21

I thought nopaine was the naphthalene analogue of methylphenidate.

**Hammilton** · 04-12-2010 00:05

benzo fury may be an awful name, but nopaine is pretty good! that is if it has local anesthaesthetic properties. well, no matter what, I guess it's a good drug, but they should have saved it for something with local anaesthetic properties- then it'd really deserve the name (since all the other *aine names are local anaesthetics, and the obvious euphoriant nature being a sort of "pain" reliever).

**(zonk)** · 04-12-2010 02:04

^yeah, it'd work if it was like some sorta __caine analog with local anesthetic properties but it's just a stim. Pi panes(this guy likes the word "pain/pane")is another nonsense name. I mean it's not that hard, i'll give it a go...

azergine
azetergide
LAAZ
LSZ
... I'm sure I could come up with more if I cared to try, I think the key is something short yet professional sounding. Something with a 'ring' to it. If i wanted a nickname and not something all "chemistry"sounding then maybe it could be called "AZID" taking the [az]etadine and using to put a spin the the parent compound's nickname "acid"...obviously. I mean "Pi panes''? I guess it's a spin on "window pane"acid by using the common visual of a 'pie' sitting in the window pane cooling but then shouldn't in be called "pane pies", where does "Pi"come from, did he expect people to say "got any 'Pi' man" or let me get a slice of 'Pi' dude"? But where does the "Pi"come from, every drug's nickname comes from something relating to the molecule itself, Pi comes from nowhere, when I hear Pi I think of the movie, which was a cool and trippy movie but how does it relate to Lysergic acid-2,4-dimethylazetidine???

Yes I did go on a rant, I am aware of that lol

**dread** · 04-12-2010 11:44

Pi = ~3,14

**(zonk)** · 04-12-2010 15:24

Yeah I think that was mentioned in the movie and in middleschool

**psykoman** · 08-03-2011 03:47

i am getting a sample of nopain from a reputable UK supplier - i am not expecting it to live up to much as i spoke to the vendor on the phone and he says it caused him great paranoia but cocaine dose do this after a while.

the best rc i have tried recently has to be MXE i fucking loved that stuff!!

getting 5grams in a few weeks i liked it that much!

**seejay33** · 08-03-2011 11:49

Hello everyone its been a while ...

I had 500mg to test from a reliable UK vendor from sat until yesterday, have to say been disappointed with results...
As above poster mentions, I suffered with paranoia too, can feel elevated heart rate and adrenaline pumping around your system but there was a definite lack of dopamine ...

Maybe due to been the first batch it may improve and to be fair they've offered me a refund but I had hopes for this one

Any further news will post more....

Seejay

**sekio** · 08-03-2011 17:02

Without GC/MS and NMR verification i'm going to hesitantly suggest that maybe you're not buying Nopaine or whatever - either any RTI or etylphenidate - because most of their precursors, esp. for the tropanes are watched more than Jersey Shore.

**fencamfamine** · 08-03-2011 19:08

I've actually sampled ethylphenidate (years ago) and it was quite a bit nicer than methylphenidate. I tried snorting (mild but nice) & smoking the freebase. I don't really like stimulants so much, but smoked it was similar to cocaine (but lasted 40 minutes, unlike crack) but less intense. I preferred it to crack, in fact, but as I say, I'm not a fan.

It's probably pretty safe (with it's low potency) but it's nothing to write home about. I know of one highly shady cocaine dealer who seriously wants to cut it into crack. What a fool...

I seem to remember that 'real' nopaine is the 4-(3,4 dichloro)phenyl-piperidine based. One paper said that replacing the ester with a propyl made the (+)trans isomer gave a Dopamine Ki of 3.4 - but that means nothing without behavioral studies and there aren't any (plus the synthetic route was a real hike!).

**Munroe** · 08-03-2011 19:10

He's quoted to have said "you can snort it like crack".....
That doesn't instil me with confidence as a potential customer.

**amanitadine** · 08-03-2011 20:21

^^^ Yeah, heh heh, I saw that too...

**fencamfamine** · 08-03-2011 21:20

My god - I just found the article. Those people are kind of worrying because they have come out with so much rubbish over the last couple of years. If they had quietly made a reasonable product then nobody would have a name, but they wouldn't be bitched about all the time. Hands up who thinks this guy will get the first knock on the door when the RC vendors get swooped?

**Hammilton** · 08-03-2011 23:25

pretty sure he's already had knocking.

**amanitadine** · 09-03-2011 03:47

^^^ I heard the same thing

**splenda** · 09-03-2011 11:37

Originally Posted by fencamfamine

I've actually sampled ethylphenidate (years ago) and it was quite a bit nicer than methylphenidate. I tried snorting (mild but nice) & smoking the freebase. I don't really like stimulants so much, but smoked it was similar to cocaine (but lasted 40 minutes, unlike crack) but less intense. I preferred it to crack, in fact, but as I say, I'm not a fan.

It's probably pretty safe (with it's low potency) but it's nothing to write home about. I know of one highly shady cocaine dealer who seriously wants to cut it into crack. What a fool...

I seem to remember that 'real' nopaine is the 4-(3,4 dichloro)phenyl-piperidine based. One paper said that replacing the ester with a propyl made the (+)trans isomer gave a Dopamine Ki of 3.4 - but that means nothing without behavioral studies and there aren't any (plus the synthetic route was a real hike!).

Is this nopaine (aka L-Threo Ethylphenidate, an isomer of ethylphenidate?) simply the levoratory form of ethylphenidate (instead of racemic)? If so, is L-ethylphenidate more potent in terms of DAT/NET Ki values than D-ethylphenidate (and is this why nopaine was marketed towards the RC market)???

**titstypedthis** · 09-03-2011 11:59

i dont get why they're using that stupid name for the l-threo isomer they're making, fucking retarded lol

**sekio** · 09-03-2011 20:50

I don't get why anyone would be purchasing a "smokeable crack cocaine replacement" and not be expecting the Feds to kick their door in. Any vendor offering products like that and other brazen replacements for blotter acid, meth etc. that have never been trialed in medicinal use is incredibly responsible and probably a scam.

The only reason that the L-threo isomer is being used is because there's a known synthetic route to it in the literature (well okay to LTMP) and it's far more potent than the racemate, compare Focalin versus Ritalin.

**psykoman** · 10-03-2011 14:22

i recevied my 1 gram sample today along with a free half of MXE! spot on! the vdendor said everyone is giving the nopain shit reviews and making people paranoide so not to keen on even trying any!! will give it a we go tonight but ight just shove it in the stahs box it might come in usefull when we run out of everything else on a bender but that might make its effects more parnoide who knowes am certainly very wary about it - also the price of it is rediculasly high! my sample would of cost alot if i had bought it!

**Torabora** · 10-03-2011 17:56

there is no real ethylphenidate on the market everyone saying he has it is scamming (same with nopaine which should be EP)

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