2c-E deaths in Blaine

[sekio]

1 dead after suspected drug overdose at Blaine gathering

A 19-year-old Coon Rapids man has died and two people are in critical condition. Eleven people ranging in age from 16 to 21 were taken to area hospitals.

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At an afternoon news conference, they said the substance had been identified by the state Bureau of Criminal Apprehension as "2C-E," which can be legally obtained over the Internet. They said the substance had been ordered over the Internet.

More: http://www.startribune.com/local/north/118182584.html

[shpongled1234]

At his news conference Thursday, Sommer said he read an article earlier in the day that said nobody had died from an overdose of 2C-E.

Then he paused and said, "Today, that's no longer the case."

Way to be the first kids

What I don't understand is who buys enough 2C-E to almost kill 11 people and just dumps it out for people to rail lines and put in their drinks?

Im sorry the kid died but have little sympathy in cases like this. Its people like this that fuck it up for everyone else.

[The Network]

This is really close to where I live, I just saw it on the news. 2c-e and 2c-i(durgz reported to have been used) are NOT dangerous, the kids either took far too much because they're retarded, or they got some laced shit from some shitty ass dealer.

[shpongled1234]

Its possible to OD on 2C-E just not easy. If someone were to snort say 100mg that could be enough.

[sackynut]

Looks like the Meph and 2Ce are tied for deaths in the USA..who will win?

psychs are touted as being non-abusable, the gene pool has just been cleared up slightly IMO.

HOWEVER, its possible some asshole sold a bunch of kids 2cI, claiming it was molly, and they all racked up 100+mg lines...that would explain it. still, always test what you get before actually doing it.

[Laika]

This is really sad
It sucks when something so powerful falls into the wrong hands.
Hopefully they've learned their lessons and will do their research.

[killermunchies]

Looks like it's time to start stocking up on 2C-E... I swear, stupid people ruin everything. It's sad these kids died but seriously, either they were fucking retarded or their dealer was fucking retarded and sold them the 2C-E as something else.

[Laika]

If you guys read more than just the title of the thread you'd realize they said they bought the stuff online. So I don't think anyone was told it was molly, or tricked from a local street dealer.
It fell into the wrong hands and then was dispersed. It is that persons fault for not doing their research and feeding it to other people without knowing. Did they deserve overdoses & death? Hell no.
They didn't ruin anything for the rest of us. Weed is illegal in most places, and that's not stopping people from obtaining it.
Perhaps the problem with something as potent as 2c-e is that it is so readily available to anyone who knows how to use the internet. If this put the heat on 2c-e it does not mean that this is the end of 2c-e. I don't think we should be looking for people to blame, the victims certainly are not the ones to blame. I'd point my phalanges at society first, for making things like psychedelics taboo.

[tass4243]

This was from another forum:

i personally know many of those kids and used to party HARD with them a couple years ago. they can handle their shit i know that for sure and i myself have done MASSIVE amounts of 2cb with them as well as other drugs. i dont know what the fuck happened but its really shitty. i know that the dumbfuck that was selling it to them is a true piece of shit and shady as hell and the fact that he supplied it and something bad happened doesnt surprise me at all. i will try to get in contact with some of them...i have fallen out a bit with them, but a close friend told me about it today and said one of the kids texted him on the way to the hospital early this am and when my buddy responded there hasnt been a reply all day. this is really scary and its also frustrating cuz i live here and its gonna fuck shit up. i will keep you guys informed of the further details that i am able to find out in the near future. but i gues my buddy said that one of the girls was in the back of the cop car asking him for booms not having ANY idea what was real and the kid that died started freaking out and smashing shit all around the apartment and then started BLEEDING FROM HIS FACE AND EYES!!! then he just fuckin dropped dead. three of the kids then tried cpr and he came back and was laying there unconscious, but breathing then he just stopped breathing and he stopped. they apparently then got him in the van and rushed him to the hospital and just dumped him out like fucking retards. thats all i got from my buddy i will repost as i learn more

[champ]

I am sorry to hear this has happened.

I would really like to know:
1. if the chemical that caused the over-doses is in fact confirmed 2ce, has been tested and found to be 2ce.
2. what the route of administration was (oral, nasal?)
3. the approximate dosages that caused the overdoses

I am mainly worried that there is a tainted batch of 2ce going around
It seems weird that so many people in one group would overdose at the same time--could this be another one of those horrible mix-ups, like bromo-dragonfly instead of 2cb-fly, etc?

[Crankinit]

Yeah, it sounds like either they were sold another chemical as 2c-E, or they thought the 2c-E was another chemical and dosed much more than usual.

[tass4243]

The people at that party said they had bought it online

[girlygrrl]

I've read a lot of TR's of people using upwards of 150mg of 2c-e without requiring hospitalization. I can't imagine someone doing enough to die of unless they're shooting up half a gram or something. *sighs* looks like I need to come up with a couple grand to stock up on a lifetime supply of meph and 2ce while its still legalish.

[Greenstar420]

Wow very sad news, feel bad for the famlies that lost someone. pretty sure that 2ci and 2ce will be scheduled in the very near future, its only a matter of time now.

[sackynut]

^not before drone, which the DEA just said they dont plan on going after yet.

[Ph0r.W3-R-m4ny]

I've personally snorted over 100mg for a single dose more than once, while drunk among other things. I've seen threads here where kids have eaten- what, a half a fucking gram actually TRYING to commit suicide with it and been fine? WTF happened here?? There HAS to be a huge under lying health issue, a tainted batch, simply another case of mislabeled bags?? Did they get a DOx? 2ct-something-er-other?

This can't just be 2ce's fault, there's info missing... this just isn't normal behavior for the chemical, someone pull up the LD 50 on this one I just can't believe it yet to be the sole cause of this death unless there's a unique medical issue or something..

[tass4243]

^not before drone, which the DEA just said they dont plan on going after yet.

ITS A TRAP! I think they are planning on doing a sweeping bust of the cathinones

[tass4243]

and from talking to someone who knew them, though not the one who died, these were hardcore kids. He thinks they were def on a lot of other shit

[The Network]

Didn't see if it said this but the 19-year-old that died just became a dad a few months ago. Saw it on local news.

I stand by my post earlier in this thread. I've seen people on this forum and other forums use hundreds just for fun, and fun it was. It was fucking NOT 2c-e or they had a shitty scale and took 100 grams instead of mg because they're stupid... But that seems unlikely that'd probably cost a fuckton.


Here's a couple reports with more than 100mg used, even combinations of 2c-i and 2c-e in 250mg each
http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/s...d.php?t=160038
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=498080

[any major dude]

hate to see something like this happen. I'm wondering if they did something incredibly stupid (i've known people to dose +100mg & not require any medical attention) or if there is a tainted or mislabeled batch going around.

[Tromps]

Spencer Hockert talked about his late friend Trevor Robinson near the house in Blaine where a synthetic drug was tried by 11 young people

"Some of them said they had used the drug in drinks and some chopped it into lines and snorted it," Sommer said. "I think they were very unfamiliar how much could make them overdose."

Unfamiliar, inexperienced, and uninformed.... It also says they dumped it into drinks (alcohol perhapes?) and snorted an unknown amount of unmeasured lines. The article fails to mention if other drugs were involved and if the death was a toxic result of the 2C-E itself. Rumors of supposed friends say he was "freaking out and started smashing shit." Was this death possibly the result of physical injury?

It seems there is a lot of missing information and I am very skeptical this death was caused solely due to 2C-E toxicity alone. The police most likely left out information on purpose to scare kids from using this substance, but I don't blame them and I commend them for doing so. Young, inexperienced teenagers should never be using these kinds of substances, ESPECIALLY they way they were using them, which was at a HOUSE PARTY for gods sake with dozens of people and dozens of uncontrolled variables. It seems like they did everything possibly wrong in regards to set and setting, and as a result they suffered the ultimate consequence, and it is very, very sad.

The ONLY way this drug should even be potentially considered for use is with a tested accurate dose; for a healthy adult with a mature, developed mind under strict supervised settings and controlled environmental factors, with the right intentions. This drug IS NOT a party drug or intended to get "fucked up" on, and I don't know why the tv news I just saw advertised that it was a party drug. Anyone who treats it as one is foolish and irresponsible. The only way I could see it used responsibly is as a tool for spiritual/religious growth or deep interpersonal consciousness exploring.

May God bless his family during this hard time. And let this be a lesson for the friends involved, or people who are thinking about using this drug at a party in the future. It should be a good warning for kids in the future that these things aren't toys.

[Delsyd]

hate to see something like this happen. I'm wondering if they did something incredibly stupid (i've known people to dose +100mg & not require any medical attention) or if there is a tainted or mislabeled batch going around.

im confused by this too.
I always imagined 2c-e to be rather safe.

[amanitadine]

^^^ I've seen a few mentions now online of the deceased "hitting his head against the wall" and the mention above of him "bleeding from his face and eyes"...........I'm wondering if he died from self inflicted injuries, and everybody else was hospitalized for due course/freaking out? He was taken off life support rather quickly, which makes me suspect some sort of cerebral edema/head trauma rather than a "2C-E overdose". Either this or they got some other substance, I just don't see 2C-E alone causing such a reaction. But who knows, maybe they lined up meph sized lines.....

This just doesn't add up , curious for more info to come out.

But yes, very sad, albeit almost inevitable with such easy access. I've said before and I will say it again that even the former "black" (underground) market seemed to do a much better job of regulating itself and harm-minimization. But the cat is out of the bag now.....

Best of wishes and godspeed on their recovery for the unfortunates that were hospitalized...

[The Network]

^ I believe it was a combination, since I live near them this is big ass news and like 1/4 of the stories are about this. 2 of them are still in critical condition (or were last time I saw the news a few hours ago).

[crimsonjunk]

It reads alot like one of the 2c-t-7 overedoses ive read about one of those kids flipped out into a violent rage then passed out and died. I have personally accidentaly ingested around 100mg of 2c-e it was a wild ride but I lived and I honestly never felt in any physical danger my heart rate was elevated but thats not suprising given how hard I was tripping. Ill believe it was 2c-e when the tocicology report is made public. I also wonder if maybe they mixed mdma or ketamine or mephedrone in with it. Thats the thing about RCs its hard to prediict drug interactions.