Moonrock Molly

**Folley** · 25-09-2012 03:35

I read somewhere I cannot mention that all "moon rocks" are actually 100% pure MDMA HCL that is cut down to 85% MDMA HCL, and that is re-rocked into larger chunks that make is seem purer and more desirable to the average user... when in reality it's an impure product

**futura2012** · 25-09-2012 04:44

I think a "moon rock" can be almost anything. From pure fused HCL salts to hydrated "watered down" crystals to a nasty fused cut. Some of the stuff I have seen of recent on here with black traces in it looks very sketchey. Certain cuts with lower MPs than MDMA might burnt or char in this way.

**Chesh** · 25-09-2012 16:29

Originally Posted by Folley

I read somewhere I cannot mention that all "moon rocks" are actually 100% pure MDMA HCL that is cut down to 85% MDMA HCL, and that is re-rocked into larger chunks that make is seem purer and more desirable to the average user... when in reality it's an impure product

It sounds unlikely that all "moonrocks" are made like that.

**'medicine cabinet'** · 25-09-2012 17:51

Originally Posted by futura2012

Hello medicine I think your best bet would be to try a variety of reagent tests and try and narrow it down this way.

To be honest the term moonrock is used to try and indicate quality or strength. It wouldnt surprise me if RC suppliers are now making "moonrocks" to look like MDMA "moonrocks".

I think they would write Kermit the frog on the baggie if it would some how add appeal to the product. Majority of dealers these days are totally immoral. They care about nothing other than green.

thats the thing, she said the guy bought it from a shop in amsterdam and it had i guess dutch written all over it. im thinking they dont sell MDMA over the counter in holland, especially not in professionally printed packages. she said .2 was going for 4o and a g for 2oo. From what she said it had all the ear marks of real MDMA, the empathy the soul clearing, jaw cleniching and eye wiggles. are there any RC's that do that? plus the duration was about 6 hours which is on par for real MDMA.

ive had a rough past few years and would really like to have an MDMA therapy session, id never in a million years take a pressed pill, bc just like my sister said there was no jittery come up, her and her bf were swinging in a hammock and soon they felt weightless, huge pupils, no visuals, just mind and body.

sorry for all the questions, you obviously know what you are talking about so sorry for picking your brain. i guess my main point, any RC's that are sold in packages in the DAM called moonrocks with those effects?

ive had molly plent of times, even stuff that looks like these new fangled "moonrocks" all they were was brown crystals slightly crushed, almost like a pack of raw sugar and it was DEF amazing quality MDMA

**Chesh** · 25-09-2012 17:53

they don't sell MDMA over the counter in Amsterdam as far as I'm aware.

**Folley** · 25-09-2012 18:20

Originally Posted by Chesh

It sounds unlikely that all "moonrocks" are made like that.

Not ALL big rocks are cut... but the dude was from your Area, and we've been told several times that when you make MDMA, you get a bunch of smaller crystals... so if you're seeing giant 5 gram rocks of MDMA, it's probably been re-rocked/cut to look bigger.

That's why I always go for the smaller, light tan rocks when I buy crystal

**futura2012** · 25-09-2012 18:46

im thinking they dont sell MDMA over the counter in holland, especially not in professionally printed packages. she said .2 was going for 4o and a g for 2oo. From what she said it had all the ear marks of real MDMA,

I dont know if this is true. MDMA is not legal in Holland but near and around the red light district in Amsterdam you can buy hash, weed, mushrooms, legal RCs so I wouldnt be totally surprised to hear that you can buy MDMA under the counter. Also the fact a large proportion of the world supply is manufactured there is another factor to consider.

are there any RC's that do that? plus the duration was about 6 hours which is on par for real MDMA.

There are so many RCs out there now sure there will be some that produce these symptoms. Many Rc makers are trying to make an RC as close to MDMA as possible but yet remain legal. I dont have much personal experience of taking RCs but looking at some of the bond diagrams of certain RCs they are very close to MDMA in structure.

any RC's that are sold in packages in the DAM called moonrocks with those effects?

Nothing in particular springs to mind but I am sure there must be. Its one of the main drug capitals of Europe.

ive had molly plent of times, even stuff that looks like these new fangled "moonrocks" all they were was brown crystals slightly crushed, almost like a pack of raw sugar and it was DEF amazing quality MDMA

If its in a "moon rock" format it doesnt tell you much other than the fact small crystals have been fused together. Sometimes this is done to look more appealing, sometimes for cutting purposes, sometimes for smuggling reasons.

If possible I would try not to focus on it too much as it doesnt really tell you a great deal. The only real benefit is it stops the true morons from cutting it with powders as you can easily identify a cut in this way.

ive had molly plent of times, even stuff that looks like these new fangled "moonrocks" all they were was brown crystals slightly crushed, almost like a pack of raw sugar and it was DEF amazing quality MDMA

The dirty brown molley a lot of people like as it tends to blow your head off. The likely cause is other impurities with CNS actions. Some how these impurities combine with the MDMA and enhance the roll. The true science as to why this is the case would require some very detailed analysis and studies.

**Chesh** · 26-09-2012 02:59

Originally Posted by Folley

Not ALL big rocks are cut... but the dude was from your Area, and we've been told several times that when you make MDMA, you get a bunch of smaller crystals... so if you're seeing giant 5 gram rocks of MDMA, it's probably been re-rocked/cut to look bigger.

The stuff in amsterdam (best MD in the world) usually goes around as big rocks. i'm guessing the chemist usually makes it all into one big rock for easier transportation and less cutting by lower dealers maybe.

**Folley** · 26-09-2012 03:20

Originally Posted by Chesh

The stuff in amsterdam (best MD in the world) usually goes around as big rocks. i'm guessing the chemist usually makes it all into one big rock for easier transportation and less cutting by lower dealers maybe.

That was the MDMA I was talking about... and yeah, that stuff does all come in pretty big rocks... but honestly you probably wouldn't even notice a 15% cut, and like I said, everything we've seen so far has told us that when MDMA is made, little chunks are formed... not giant boulders

**futura2012** · 26-09-2012 04:01

This is a "boulder" <-- fixed - the toad

(hint: i added the bolder letter)

**mod edit - the toad**
No synth discussion please

**'medicine cabinet'** · 04-10-2012 02:39

Thoose are beautiful

**dcraver877** · 05-10-2012 00:46

i had some moonrocks that were supposed to be mdma but later found were actually bk-mdma. I traded back my guy for the new stuff. Of course, the real mdma (tested), looks all powdery and possibly cut (compared to the beautiful bk-mdma rocks...), but I guess that's better than methylone?

Anyways, I saved a half g of the methylone just so I could compare them. Any thoughts on combining? Boosting mdma with bk-mdma?

here is a pic of the methylone just for future reference:

**HighonLife** · 05-10-2012 03:39

^^ pic didnt work

maybe just my comp?

**dcraver877** · 08-10-2012 18:54

looks like its working now....maybe its just my computer.

**Folley** · 08-10-2012 20:24

^ daaaaannnnggggg that shit looks exactly like MDMA!!!!

You reagent tested that to be methylone?

**dcraver877** · 08-10-2012 22:26

yep......

thats why i figured it was imperative i post a picture. The stuff i traded back for is a white powder (obviously looks cut) but is apparently fairly pure and tests positive for mdma.

**Mr.MDxx** · 08-10-2012 22:51

At least you could trade it back haha. This is a prime example of why you should always test your mdma, you never know what you really have! I was actually somewhat surprised to see at the last music festival I went to, I saw a guy walking around the camp grounds selling the test kits found on amazon. It's good because half the pills/molly there where bunk, the first batch I got was a mix of Methylone and Meth...

**Chesh** · 09-10-2012 03:45

Originally Posted by dcraver877

looks like its working now....maybe its just my computer.

If I saw that my first thought would be "that's some good looking mandy".

Good thing you tested it. I wonder if something like PMA/PMMA or pipes could like that much like MDMA?

**rc_headache28** · 09-10-2012 06:42

Originally Posted by futura2012

This is a "boulder" <-- fixed - the toad

(hint: i added the bolder letter)

**mod edit - the toad**
No synth discussion please

This is what the moonrocks I tried at a festival in WV looked like. It was amazing IT took be back to my younger years when real e pills existed. A + but very expensive. First time I ever saw slash tried it I would do it again if it was around.

**laugh** · 09-10-2012 06:45

its a shame you cant judge a book by its cover

they gotta have some translucency

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