Is the name given in the thread title not wrong? Should be 1-(4-bromo-2,5-dimethoxyphenyl)-2-amino-ethan-1-one, no?
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Last edited by babylonboy; 09-10-2013 at 02:15. Reason: Got the nomenclature wrong. Hoist by my own petard.
bk-2C-B works well enough, lol.
OK, so either leave it at that, or have the correct name. Anyone who actually understands the nomenclature can see that it's wrong, what's the point in that?
So how about: 2-amino-1-(4-bromo-2,5-dimethoxyphenyl)ethanone ??
I know for the OCD chemicologists this is crucial shit, but think we may well survive with bk-2C-B :D
That's still ambiguous, is the ketone at the 1 or 2 position? Either get the long-form name right or get rid of it. Lay names are fine, but why have a systematic name that's wrong? Why is this such a bugbear for you?
so this still isnt available but for a select few? guessing that it isnt that great as it was first thought? or is the supply/sinth the issue?
anyone have any idea if there are 2c-b impurities in it? or the synth is just too different to produce that as well.... (not a synth question, just curious about legality)
Nah, you can't just tack an oxygen on like that, it'll be made using a ketone precursor, and the UK RC vendors aren't stupid enough to sell anything with class A impurities (which is why NBOMes were tricky).
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The eagle has landed.
Pandoras box of bk-phenylethylamines opened indeed...
This sounds really promising! I love 2-CB, it's absolutely lush and if it closely resembles the good stuff then Christmas has come early! Shame I have no funds to purchase just now. Knowing my luck when I do get some money together in the next week or so it'll be sold out.
yeah this stuff is no joke.
did about 100mg last night and was very taken by surprise. I thought it had worn off a couple of hours after I snorted it, then suddenly started TRIPPING. Made for a good change of scenery.
Got 250mg of this sitting at post depot. Won't be able to get it till Wednesday morning though because of work (which is when I plan to try it... Weds.) Not sure on dosage yet though or ROA.
I snorted approx 100mg of it and was rather fucked up. It also burned like a fucker, I would drink it in orange juice.
Sounds like the 6/7x weaker than 2C-B needs clarification from a larger test set.
I've never tried 2CB itself, so can't compare. But 100mg (approx) was a pretty heavy dose (spread over a few hours). I was really surprised about how it crept up on me.
Interesting material anyway, I would like to sample the bk-2C-I as I remember 2CI as having a little more of a stimulant push. This feels much less aggressive, but very benign, and it is far nicer than 25I-NBOME.
bk-2C-T-X, por favor :D
And how about bk-triflouromescaline... could be fun :|
I've found that railing bk-2C-B makes the experience less stimulating - pretty sledgy/dreamy actually. Loses the tingletastic-orgasmatron come-up period :D
And it combos very well with classic psych-PEAs... still feel a bit askew, been in a lovely sledgy-PEA glow all day :D
Last edited by Mela; 13-10-2013 at 23:02.
Perhaps that's where I'm going wrong then. I'm about to brutalise my nose with a little more. It really is unpleasant. I'm not sure it had really worn off fully this morning, so I'm not sure how taking more today will go. But I'm at a loose end and might aswell use the stuff up. Only aquired it because I was shocked to see it available, out of curiosity. Not something I would aquire again. But as I say, at a loose end on a free weekend so it's an interesting diversion.
edit> sledgy/dreamy sounds about right. Lends itself well to contemplation.
Aye, it likely has long duration active metabolites (e.g., BOB... active @ 10mg!).
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so, trippier but less stimulating than 2cb?
oral dose? IMed yet anyone?
Not as far as I know (IM). Oral - good starting dose...100mg. Starts getting really funky around 150mg, but ~18hrs duration.
Here's a TR for 100mg...
105mg bk-2C-B, light lunch 3hrs earlier.
t = 0: 105mg Oral. Lovely sunny afternoon, so not expecting visual delights. But too good to pass - great set and setting :)
t =30: not much at this point
t =60: first alerts, little tingles/chills and slight restlessness. HR increase felt. Music is starting to sound awesome
t =90: feeling some stimmy effects, increase in temp, tightness in throat, mood heightening, maybe minor visuals in periphery, some gastric churning (poop time)
t =105: feeling great, smooth energetic euphoria, music awesome, urge to move, lol - funkin away :) got the moves like an ageing raver :/
t =120: Oopsie, lost myself for a minute there - perhaps time distortion but minor TR fail either way :/ As above - nice and smooth, tingles/chills here and there. Upped the music pace...stupid grin on cakehole :D Any visual aspect is minor at this point. But no surprise dose- or setting-wise.
t =150: can sense visual background, but minor. As before - smooth but stimmed, warm euphoria. Nice.
t =180: clearly plateauing. As before. Pulled into Real Life™ stuff for a while :/ Easily handled at this level. Chance for empathogenic effects to shine :D
t =210: as before. Desperate urge to dive back into musical bliss :/
t =240: feeling some pins & needles in hands/fingers, neck tension. Yawns appearing, generally as before but stimmy edge waning (could be change in setting), perhaps on the downslope?
t =270: still pins & needles, some minor chest-pain, but nothing concerning. As before - now diving back into music. Hopefuly will lift me somewhat (damn neighbours and their random crap!)
t =300: much better, pushy tunes :D Amazing views - just taking it all in :) as before otherwise, but now got some push back. Clear musical synergy :)
t =330: Won't reach earlier stimmy heights, but still nice warm euphoria. Music is blissful. Dozens of swifts flying above my head :D Sunset is gonna be lush :) Think defo downslope at this point.
t =360: brrrr! Sunset is awesome but need to wrap up. Definite downslope. Still feelin good, Jaki Liebezeit is godly :D, but can feel the effects waning :( However, as sun goes down the visual angle starts to shine through :)
t =390: As above, visual angle is clearer now. Just had an awesome hug :D Effects waning. Chill brings on some neck tension.
t =420: Must munch - as always when playing in this zone: nice & spicy. Gorgeous :D visual effects much clearer - tracers, minor morphing etc
t =450: smoothly sliding to baseline, still some visuals
t =480: off for snuggles and cuddles - transmission over :D
t = 10.5hrs: still minor visuals and body high effects going. Uhmm, nice erotic downslope here, lol.
In sum: hell yes :D excellent and typical 'morning' afterglow (well, what I normally expect in this zone). lovely jubbly :D
~54mg bk-2C-B weighed out, three nice equalish rails set up (so ~18mg each). set sucks: tired, shitty-week, blah blah. Setting good.
t = 0: ~36mg bk-2C-B - OK, railing nettles may be kinder to the nasal passages, but bearable. Felt worse.
t= 5: no rapid effects at this point. Not as hard and fast as other things I can think of :| lol
t = 10: mood is more positive, but no rocket launch etc.
t = 15: visuals noted in periphery, need a poop :| Nasal sting is negligible and background at this point.
t = 30: remaining insuff'd (~18mg bk-2C-B). Not so bad this time. Going for poop :D
t = 45: I pooped :|
t = 60: nice chills & tingles, feels like a quick launch 100mg oral :| mild visual effects, mood is positive but not euphoric - a set issue metink. Feeling hungry, so I'd guess that means plateau munches time is here :D No headfuck etc.
t = 90: Pretty chilled & mellow really - does feel around a 100mg oral experience (perhaps a little under). Mild visual, entactogenic, and empathogenic effects. Some vaso (heating going on, hah). Munched a fishfinger butty :D
t = 120: still feel on plateau (need moar & spicier food!) - mild visual effects, chills/tingles, some vaso, bit sledgy (think set again - just a draining week). As before really.
t = 150: still plateau - partner crashed. Headphones, some good sounds, feeling good :D
t = 180: Still plateau - so around 60mins smooth launch to plateau, 2hrs at that level so far. of course, extra bump in there to complicate matters :/
t = 210: as before really - mild visuals, entact, empath - not overly stimmy (sledgy today). Starting to get some yawns. Downslope oncoming?
t = 240: very sledgy downslope - which I like :D certainly suits my mood perfectly, hah. Sigur ros expertly massaging my brain :D
t = 300: could easily crash now. Again very sledgy feeling. Still mild visual effects. The dead have arisen! May go for some snuggles soon :D
t ~ 360: Again, could crash easily now. Very sledgy, chilled, and dreamy - which I lurrrvve. I could probably keep myself going for another hour or two. But off for snuggles. Transmission over :D
First feelings: prefer oral - don't mind insuff now and again (usually to boost), but I like a decent smooth launch - want my tingle-tings-to-tingle-longer :| really (really) liking the downslope tonight tho' (but might be a set issue...).
Last edited by Mela; 14-10-2013 at 00:17.
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